I've been racing open wheel cars with SCCA for 4 years now. I'm getting out of SCCA for numerous reasons, and have just purchased a 97 Integra that I will be doing a full build on. What does NASA require to have a log book made up for a car? Do they require a title, or just a normal tech inspection? Thanks for any help.

 

its an anual tech inspection but you get your cage stamped and you have to come with holes drilled in the cage so they can measure... when you roll in for your anual tech just tell them you need a new log book because the car is new. they'll go over your cage, seats, suit, shoes, gloves, helmet, bumper to bumper... measure, stamp, fill out the book... they'll tell you to put pictures of the car in the book... they'll sign and you are on your way.

We do like to have at least the dash VIN to look at when filling out the book

 

Considering my VIN number had to come off to cut the dashboard for clearance for the roll cage, in your experience, has it been accepted to just re-rivit it back in somewhere else on the dash?

 

yes thats cool, or make sure the one in the door jam is readable or the one under the hood... at least thats the other places i look for the numbers.... if you have it in either or both of the other places i wouldnt worry about it...

 

It's also dependant on who does the tech. My Integra has no VIN plates on the car and I didn't have a hole drilled into the cage. This was last season at CMP's first race of the season.

They basically gave the car a quick check over and issued a log book.

Regards,

Jon

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1021893 Dont build

 

actaully i'll support that dont build statement as well! i always forget about all those damn cars for sale...

 

Quick question... where do you want the hole in the cage drilled?

 

Main hoop and door bar are the minimum areas... try contacting your regions tech guy though. i dont know what size they would want, i know we ask for a 3/16ths hole. put a peice of tape/paint on them to make sure they are easy to find... i hate searching through padding and crap to find them... and i'm sure i'm not the only one.

and dont drill onto one of the bends... you can have them either on the passanger or the driver side... your option... well at least with Rich and I.

 

thanks for all the useful info!

 

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They basically gave the car a quick check over and issued a log book.
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That's a little disconcerting.

The VIN issue isn't a big deal - I'm not aware of any stipulation in the HC or PS rules that require a VIN (whereas SCCA IT does require the VIN to prove the car model).

But, the cage needs to be properly teched for safety and liability reasons. There was a case a few years back where a Trans Am driver died in a car with inadequately sized cage tubes. At that time, Trans Am only speced the main hoop, but the door bars could be anything. Well, this guy's car had really thin door tubes - when he got t-boned, the cage collapsed and he was killed.

(That's my recollection of the story, even if not 100% accurate, this is a scenario that should be tested by the tech workers).

 

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Sorry, almost done with the build. Actually, it's quite a bit further along than these pics show:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1114504

 

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The VIN issue isn't a big deal - I'm not aware of any stipulation in the HC or PS rules that require a VIN (whereas SCCA IT does require the VIN to prove the car model).

But, the cage needs to be properly teched for safety and liability reasons. There was a case a few years back where a Trans Am driver died in a car with inadequately sized cage tubes. At that time, Trans Am only speced the main hoop, but the door bars could be anything. Well, this guy's car had really thin door tubes - when he got t-boned, the cage collapsed and he was killed.

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I believe you are referring to the guy killed at Mosport two years ago.

It could be that they didn't check the cage in my car as closely because it was a Grand Am Cup car. While that alone shouldn't dictate whether one chooses to inspect or not, many organizations assume that if you bring a car from a higher series (read Pro series) it has saftey protection that is above what most club racing requires.

I have no idea why it wasn't inspected.

Regards,

Jon

 

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I have no idea why it wasn't inspected.
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Did it have a valid GAC logbook? That could explain it. Although, in light of the Mosport incident, they probably should check all cages anyways.

 

Grand Am Cup does not use log books. Instead they have certification tags (little paper strips) that have to be attached to the roll cage near the window with date, tech info and race info.

However, I don't think they were checked at all. All three of these cars (Carpenter's, Zimmerman's, and mine) were well known GA Cup cars so that may have played a part.

Jon

 

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Actually, i'm really tired of buying used race cars. You never know what you are getting. I would rather put a "little" (haha) more money into it, and know what I am driving. Besides, it will be fun.

 

Good luck with the build