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can an inline fuel pump make the car run to rich?

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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 10:57 AM
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my 92 hatch has a stock bottom end d15b8. a 16v head and intake manifold. a t-25 turbo. i was wondering why my car runs so rich at idle or when im getting on it. black smoke everywhere any ideas would help me out, thanks

i have an 12:1 fmu and five check valves
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 11:08 AM
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Is your car tuned?
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is your car tuned? </TD></TR></TABLE>
You can't tune an FMU.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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Default Re: can an inline fuel pump make the car run to rich? (Luserkid)

no i was told that with the fmu and missing link it wouldnt need a tune, but my car wouldnt start so i changed to the check valves and now its just rich. i was thinking about adding another check valve so it would see less air at the map sensor and turn the fuel down.


i want the flames to stop coming out my exhaust
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 11:19 AM
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Default Re: can an inline fuel pump make the car run to rich? (Ricey McRicerton)

ok i disconnected the inline fuel pump and it still is too rich
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ricey McRicerton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You can't tune an FMU.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Really i was unaware of that. Well i dont have one anyway so ehh.

Maybe its your FMU, whats your complete set up? Injectors, etc.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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Default Re: can an inline fuel pump make the car run to rich? (Luserkid)

92 cx pretty much stock ummm.... 16valve head, cx bottom, dx intake manifold, a t-25 with a rx-7 intercooler . 155 fuel pump a 12:1 fmu and 5 check valve because the missing link took a poop i was thinking about hondata but i dont want to spend money on just 10 lbs of boost on a cx
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 11:34 AM
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Default Re: can an inline fuel pump make the car run to rich? (slowturbocx)

im about to do a external cap conversion like in honda tuning mag. i think that would help my car a little bit anyhow maybe friday or somehtign. my car is starting to **** me off
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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Do you have an adjustible FPR?
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 11:41 AM
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Default Re: can an inline fuel pump make the car run to rich? (Luserkid)

nope
but even at idle the car isnt seeing boost so the fmu doesnt work. so it should be running fine like n/a
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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Default Re: can an inline fuel pump make the car run to rich? (slowturbocx)

At idle the car shouldnt be seeing boost anyway.

You dont have injectors or anything correct? Try taking off all your fuel stuff, FMU, and fuel pump and see how that works. You shouldnt bog or anything.

Ditch the FMU and get a VAFC and get that thing tuned, i only heard bad things from FMU's and this is one of them.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 04:08 AM
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what happens when the car goes lean? when im boosting 10 pounds, boom
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 04:09 AM
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maybe i'll buy one used or something
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 06:16 AM
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Default Re: can an inline fuel pump make the car run to rich? (slowturbocx)

is your FMU hooked up backwards?
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 06:39 AM
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10 lbs on a stock block? No tuning? Good luck.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 07:32 AM
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Just buy Uberdata or Hondata and get it running right!
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 07:57 AM
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i dont think it can be hooked up backwards can it? well the vac. line and fuel but its not
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 07:57 AM
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ive ran it before it just runs pig rich it still pulls hard
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:00 AM
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you think i can buy that stuff used ?
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 10:07 AM
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Default Re: (slowturbocx)

if your OBD1, you can chip your ECU for about 30 bucks.. (you do the labor)... and other than getting someone to burn you chips, or if you invest in a chip burner.. uberdata is free... next best thing to Hondata.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1110035

tunning is being discussed in this thread right now.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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Default Re: can an inline fuel pump make the car run to rich? (slowturbocx)

I'd say go with a Hondata or Uberdata to fine tune your set up, or pick up a used SAFC or VAFC and trim the fat.

BTW, what happened to your Missing Link?
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 11:18 AM
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if you really need a missing link i have one for sale... but on another note, how do you know its running really rich do you have a wideband? i suggest you get one of those first...
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:00 AM
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it started sucking in then it got clogged when i puleed it apart there was oil in it i dont know what that was about
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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raw fuel out the back of exhaust and a cool flame out the back the only problem is i dont have the flame thrower kit
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