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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 06:39 PM
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OBD2 compared to OBD0 Pr3 head differences?
Strickly the sensors/plugs for the head NOT the intake manifold (I know there's a world of differences in there)
What are the differences in the two heads when it comes to wiring (given I have a 99 Si engine harness)
Someone please tell me nothing.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 07:28 PM
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TTT please.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 09:11 PM
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Bump.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 07:13 AM
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TTT please.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 02:16 PM
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Cmon someone shed some light.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 02:25 PM
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did you ask the honda dealer if they know??
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 02:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civictildeath &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did you ask the honda dealer if they know??</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'll ask my dog before I ask them.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 02:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Louie_EM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I'll ask my dog before I ask them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well it looks like you are gonna have to ask your dog then cause apparently no one know
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 04:10 PM
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heads are the same externally. the only difference is the newer heads have billet spray bars and the 1st gen heads are cast and are rough. when it comes to wiring it is mainly the intake manifold that is of difference.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 04:16 PM
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all the plugs should be the same except for the vtec solenoid. the obd0 has the milky white plug, obd2 has the gray plug. the coolant temp sensor should plug in, as well as the sensor for the temp gauge. jdm motors won't have the oil pressure switch tho. btw, the dealer won't know **** about obd0 b16's b/c they were never sold in the US
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 04:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dantastic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> btw, the dealer won't know **** about obd0 b16's b/c they were never sold in the US</TD></TR></TABLE>
Exactly.

Ok dantastic, stay with me few more questions...
I have my old usdm b16 vtec solinoid, so thats fine. All I am doing is swapping the head, nothing else.
Oil pressure switch not there, ok so what happens then? This is kinda what I was afraid of...
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 09:32 AM
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No oil pressue switch.
I searched and found I need to run a few wires back and forth from the ECU pinout.
Anyone shed a little more information for me?
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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TTT for information.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 08:33 PM
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everything should plug in. for the vtec pressure switch, just use a usdm vtec solenoid. one difference is that the aluminum bars that hold the cam caps are different but do not cause any performance difference. One is cast aluminum and the other is extruded or something like that
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ivan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">everything should plug in. for the vtec pressure switch, just use a usdm vtec solenoid. one difference is that the aluminum bars that hold the cam caps are different but do not cause any performance difference. One is cast aluminum and the other is extruded or something like that </TD></TR></TABLE>

my jdm b16 already had a usdm oil pressure switch on it (the previous owner had put it on). i guess that there's just a plug there on the jdm head. the usdm switch should work fine.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 09:26 PM
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Soo USDM vtec solinoid and I'm set to go nothing else (minus the injectors and IM)?
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 09:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Louie_EM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Soo USDM vtec solinoid and I'm set to go nothing else (minus the injectors and IM)?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah and the appropriate distributor but I'm sure you knew that
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 09:38 PM
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Whats a distributor?
Ok thanks Ivan.
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