check out this air/fuel ratio on the dyno
generally, you cant really tune a RED X.
edit: there ya go lol
you dont want to tune the AFR just by the number. you want to tune by the power its making. generally you dont want to be on the lean side but not too far from stoich. depending on set up, 13-14 is a good(safe) range to be in throughout the RPM band. running a little bit on the rich side helps cool the pistons as well. running lean is just bad altogether.
edit: there ya go lol
you dont want to tune the AFR just by the number. you want to tune by the power its making. generally you dont want to be on the lean side but not too far from stoich. depending on set up, 13-14 is a good(safe) range to be in throughout the RPM band. running a little bit on the rich side helps cool the pistons as well. running lean is just bad altogether.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by danny98r »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is it more tunenable?
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It isn't perfectly tuned. But, are you asking if it is tuned OK, or if you can tune it more? You're a bit lean from 6-7K (scary!) and a little richer than an NA ITR would want at 8.5K.
What tuning do you have available? Hondata, FPR, VAFC?
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It isn't perfectly tuned. But, are you asking if it is tuned OK, or if you can tune it more? You're a bit lean from 6-7K (scary!) and a little richer than an NA ITR would want at 8.5K.
What tuning do you have available? Hondata, FPR, VAFC?
well now ill ask more. is it tuned ok and is there room for improvement. does my car still need some work. i am using a vafc with a kenji p28
ehhh you arent excessively lean...but I would try to add some fuel in those lean spots just to see how the car responds. if you lose a couple HP/TQ id say its safer in the long run.
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I don't know for Hondas, but in the VW world, that's where the tuner's claimed max power would be generated from.
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i honestly wouldnt touch the A/f any more. Thats a pretty good a/f curve
a little lean on the upper parts, but i dont think its bad
a little lean on the upper parts, but i dont think its bad
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i think this is way to rich. i had my car way leaner than that with port/polish, higher compression and big cams. 12-13 sounds more like a forced induction a/f ration.
i think this is way to rich. i had my car way leaner than that with port/polish, higher compression and big cams. 12-13 sounds more like a forced induction a/f ration.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RTW DC2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">generally, you cant really tune a RED X.
edit: there ya go lol
you dont want to tune the AFR just by the number. you want to tune by the power its making. generally you dont want to be on the lean side but not too far from stoich. depending on set up, 13-14 is a good(safe) range to be in throughout the RPM band. running a little bit on the rich side helps cool the pistons as well. running lean is just bad altogether. </TD></TR></TABLE>
you're trippin if you think upwards of 14:1 AF is fine!!!
Stoich is 14.7 and you don't want to be near there!
Usually low 13's is best NA and low 12's is best boosted...although there are exceptions
edit: there ya go lol
you dont want to tune the AFR just by the number. you want to tune by the power its making. generally you dont want to be on the lean side but not too far from stoich. depending on set up, 13-14 is a good(safe) range to be in throughout the RPM band. running a little bit on the rich side helps cool the pistons as well. running lean is just bad altogether. </TD></TR></TABLE>
you're trippin if you think upwards of 14:1 AF is fine!!!
Stoich is 14.7 and you don't want to be near there!
Usually low 13's is best NA and low 12's is best boosted...although there are exceptions
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you're trippin if you think upwards of 14:1 AF is fine!!!
Stoich is 14.7 and you don't want to be near there!
Usually low 13's is best NA and low 12's is best boosted...although there are exceptions
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depends on the set up and whos tuning it. my car liked to be leaned out but i never leaned it past 14. generally low to mid 13s across the board. :shrugs:
you're trippin if you think upwards of 14:1 AF is fine!!!
Stoich is 14.7 and you don't want to be near there!
Usually low 13's is best NA and low 12's is best boosted...although there are exceptions
</TD></TR></TABLE>depends on the set up and whos tuning it. my car liked to be leaned out but i never leaned it past 14. generally low to mid 13s across the board. :shrugs:
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