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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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i have the oportunity to buy a 2000 civic Si for a pretty good price ($5600), i drove it today and it drives fine, VTEC works great and it pulls much stronger than i had expected. problem is that the CEL is on (didnt have a chance to pull the codes and the first time i tried to start it it just cranked for 20 secs or so, then i tried to crank it again and it started right up with the CEL blaring. so i turned it off in hopes that it was having a brain fart and i tried to start it again it ran for a sec then sputtered and stalled, so i tried yet another time and it started fine and i test drove it and it ran fine, VTEC did engage so i know its not on limp home mode but i do suspect it has some type of fuel problem causing the CEL. is there some kind of common problem that causes this or is it just some kind of sensor that commonly goes bad?
BTW i used to have a h22 swapped 4th gen prelude and was a member of this board back then, thats why im comming to you guys for help here.
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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it could litterally be anything, you need to pull the code to find out.
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 04:06 PM
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for that price there must be something wrong with it.

even a nice si with a reconstructed title will go for 7-8k or so
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 04:07 PM
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well its from a dealership i work at, its a wholesale price and it has 94k on it which is kinda high for the year. but i did notice it is a pretty good price for the car, other than the cel it seems to be in good shape and it did run well even with the cel, once it was started...
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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I would buy it. But I would still want to know what code it is throwing so I would at least have an idea what the problem is. If all else fails you could throw a new motor in that bitch and still be in pretty good shape money wise.
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 05:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaFanatic708 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would buy it. But I would still want to know what code it is throwing so I would at least have an idea what the problem is. If all else fails you could throw a new motor in that bitch and still be in pretty good shape money wise. </TD></TR></TABLE>

im with him, that is a good price and if it at a dealer? (honda dealer i hope) they should sell your there warrenty as well, if anything happen it on them but check out what code your throwing and see what your up agaisnt

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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 06:30 PM
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the dealership is carmax and its one of our "wholesale cars" which means we wont sell it to our customers, this could be because its got too many miles, too old, or could be a complete piece or crap. but at anyrate im an employee and i have access to it but not a warranty.
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 06:41 PM
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sounds like a good deal but just check out that CEL to make sure its nothing serious that will swet you back.
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 06:41 PM
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how the **** did VTEC work great with a CEL on?

If you have a CEL, VTEC WILL NOT ENGAGE.

Do you know what vtec even is?
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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maybe you don't know what you are talking about, the car will still engage vtec with the cel on you ******* idiot.......... , go back to riceville you **** dwelling but monkey
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 07:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99jdmcoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">maybe you don't know what you are talking about, the car will still engage vtec with the cel on you ******* idiot.......... , go back to riceville you **** dwelling but monkey</TD></TR></TABLE>

or because I tested this on my car when I had a CEL. VTEC would not engage to save its life. Fixed the CEL, VTEC worked fine.

OK sure.. Im a ricer: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=978517 I dont see your How to de-rice thread.

**** dwelling but monkey? stop watching WWF.
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vero &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how the **** did VTEC work great with a CEL on?

If you have a CEL, VTEC WILL NOT ENGAGE.

Do you know what vtec even is?</TD></TR></TABLE>

relax buddy, vtec will engage with a cel on. depends which one tho.

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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 07:53 PM
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i swapped a JDM h22a into a 92 prelude si (non VTEC), i know a thing or two about vtec and what it does. VTEC was engaging on this car and i believe the only codes that will force vtec not to engage are oil pressure or timing related. so yea STFU and dont flame unless you know what your talking about. im just asking for oppinions here cause i dont have a whole lot of background on this particular platform.
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Old Dec 5, 2004 | 05:36 AM
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damn this board moves fast...
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Old Dec 5, 2004 | 06:49 AM
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BS if a cel is on the cars vtec can still work.. i had a p0103 code for like 3 months.. then i replaced the oxygen sensor and it was gone.. car drove the exact same with that cel code being thrown
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Old Dec 5, 2004 | 09:56 AM
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ok i just pulled the code on the car, its a code 67 and thats the only code it throws. im assuming that means teh catalytic converter is clogged? would that cause it to be hard to start but run fine when started? i noticed today that it does start much easier if you give it gas while your cranking it...
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Old Dec 5, 2004 | 10:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by papa_smurf &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok i just pulled the code on the car, its a code 67 and thats the only code it throws. im assuming that means teh catalytic converter is clogged? would that cause it to be hard to start but run fine when started? i noticed today that it does start much easier if you give it gas while your cranking it...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, it could mean that the cat is dying and clogged up. If you'd like I'll be more than happy to take a look at it with you.
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Old Dec 5, 2004 | 10:08 AM
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I would be wary of buying an SI with that many miles for so cheap.

Remember, T-belt and clutch will have to be changed soon.

Do a compression check if you can.
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Old Dec 5, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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the reason the car is soo cheap is because i am buying it from work, its one of my benefits from working there, this car isnt available to the general public, only car dealerships and employees can buy it thats why its soo cheap.
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Old Dec 5, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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yea sure i wouldnt mind having another set of eyes checking it out with me
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Old Dec 5, 2004 | 05:45 PM
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Kelly blue book on the car, with 90,000 miles is $11,400. Dang that is one hell of a employee discount.
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