For a CRX, Are Phantom LSD any good?, Are they easy to install?, Are the woth the money?

 

Do you want a lsd to work 50% of the time or not work at all
There is no substitute for quality
you get what you pay for, in other words NO

 

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No, no, and no.

If you're going to go through the trouble of opening the transmission case and pulling the diff, do it right the first time and install a real LSD.

 

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If you're going to go through the trouble of opening the transmission case and pulling the diff, do it right the first time and install a real LSD.</TD></TR></TABLE>



I have only heard bad things about phantom.

 

i have had a phantom lsd, and trust me they are not worth the money, go out and get your self a quality lsd

 

yup they suck same with the quafi or what ever its called

 

Wow thanks for the info, What is a good LSD?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MugenHonda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There is no substitute for quality
you get what you pay for, </TD></TR></TABLE>

best post ever.

 

yes phantom =

i sold a gsr tranny to a guy with some phantom lsd..... lol he kept complaining and bitching about it, but the bottom line is im an honest seller and he bought a tranny with PHANTOM GRIP/RANDOM SLIP "lsd"

 

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I agree Phantom sucks, but what is your beef with Quaife?

 

even though they are a bit pricey quaife is prolly your best bet

 

Phantom Grip, AKA Phantom Slip.

 

I use KAAZ LSD or ATS which originates from KAAZ

 

absolutely not Get a Quaife We have seen quite a few transmissions with this product installed and they had poor results as they ended up in our shop as core transmissions. Also could be from improper installation but, seen way too many to say that.


Modified by GearSpeedEF9 at 6:36 PM 12/2/2004

 

I have heard many horror stories about them here.

 

One of the Champion ITA crx's in the NW here is running a phantom and I had the pleasure of driving it. The thing worked great.. Infact it worked SO well that I thought about using one for my new ITA CRX.

I already have my heart set on something else but they have been using this phantom for 3 years and still works great. We pulled the tranny apart at the track a while back and there was NO WEAR. The tranny was in tip-top shape. I give a for phantom or at least Phantom "style" LSD.

So this is a message from someone who actually has personal experience with a Phantom "Style" LSD.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rice_classic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">One of the Champion ITA crx's in the NW here is running a phantom and I had the pleasure of driving it. The thing worked great.. Infact it worked SO well that I thought about using one for my new ITA CRX.

I already have my heart set on something else but they have been using this phantom for 3 years and still works great. We pulled the tranny apart at the track a while back and there was NO WEAR. The tranny was in tip-top shape. I give a for phantom or at least Phantom "style" LSD.

So this is a message from someone who actually has personal experience with a Phantom "Style" LSD.</TD></TR></TABLE>

wonder why most peeps say they suck then? wonder if most say they suck because they are just agreeing with others? I personally havent used one, so I cant say if they are good or not.

 

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Several reasons,
1: they just saw something negative about in the interweb and "went with it".
2: They've looked at the design and how simplistic it is and said "It's cheap and it's simple, it can't be any good.".
3: They've tried it themselves and had a bad experience but it they also installed it themselves and it was the first time they've ever opened a tranny case.
4: Installation may require "creativity".

On the one that I drove, that worked fantastically, had a modification to it. They had wedged a penny between each of the springs to increase it's capability. This actually worked WONDERS and has worked for MANY races.

Remember though, I'm talking STRICTLY RACING.. I'm not talking streetability AT ALL.

 

Yes there is a fine line between street and race

 

had a phantom got a y1 with a real lsd 100% better

 

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People will tend to exagerate but yes, this is the common opinion.
Factory LSD's and Quaife's are great units for cars that are daily driven and/or raced.

I'm still waiting for the final verdict on the OBX diff. As it stands, I'm considering one because the crx si trannies are a dime a dozen and a 300-400$ obx diff is ironically more expensive than the tranny so I might as well try to cut corners if it will get the job done.

Phantom for the track:
Phantom for the street:
Phantom for ease of installation:

Torsen diffs for street/track: