Anyone running the Hotchkis 27mm rear sway?
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Re: Anyone running the Hotchkis 27mm rear sway? (Chemicalviper)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chemicalviper »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">now i always get them mixed up but if a bar that big would cause to much understeer (correct me if im wrong)</TD></TR></TABLE>
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A larger diameter bar (assuming same type, solid/hallow) will reduce understeer / increase oversteer.
For the the street I think a bar that big would not be the best choice. An inexperienced driver in an emergency situation is going to loop the car.
Backwards.
A larger diameter bar (assuming same type, solid/hallow) will reduce understeer / increase oversteer.
For the the street I think a bar that big would not be the best choice. An inexperienced driver in an emergency situation is going to loop the car.
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Re: Anyone running the Hotchkis 27mm rear sway? (StageOne)
i would say honda has overkilled the front bar making it harder to oversteer...so a larger bar is good but even though its 27mm in diameter is still hollow and not as strong as a solid 27mm bar
and it is adjustable
and it is adjustable
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Re: Anyone running the Hotchkis 27mm rear sway? (JdMK20Ahatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JdMK20Ahatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would say honda has overkilled the front bar making it harder to oversteer...so a larger bar is good but even though its 27mm in diameter is still hollow and not as strong as a solid 27mm bar
and it is adjustable</TD></TR></TABLE>
that's not true. a solid bar when it's smaller like 20mm is stronger then a hollow. but when it gets to 27mm a hollow bar is stronger. it's the structure of a bar. as a hollow bar gets larger, the bars strength increases.
and it is adjustable</TD></TR></TABLE>
that's not true. a solid bar when it's smaller like 20mm is stronger then a hollow. but when it gets to 27mm a hollow bar is stronger. it's the structure of a bar. as a hollow bar gets larger, the bars strength increases.
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Re: Anyone running the Hotchkis 27mm rear sway? (aznbo1626)
Since I am using a 27mm solid front progress bar the hollow rear 27mm hotchkis bar still won't cause too much oversteer because the front is solid..thoughts?
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Re: Anyone running the Hotchkis 27mm rear sway? (aznbo1626)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aznbo1626 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
that's not true. a solid bar when it's smaller like 20mm is stronger then a hollow. but when it gets to 27mm a hollow bar is stronger. it's the structure of a bar. as a hollow bar gets larger, the bars strength increases.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ur gonna have to back that up cause that makes no sense....a tube is strong laterally right? when twisting where is the support? Every write up ive seen abuot the bars has said the opposite of what u say...they say 27mm hollow bar same as a 25mm bar
that's not true. a solid bar when it's smaller like 20mm is stronger then a hollow. but when it gets to 27mm a hollow bar is stronger. it's the structure of a bar. as a hollow bar gets larger, the bars strength increases.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ur gonna have to back that up cause that makes no sense....a tube is strong laterally right? when twisting where is the support? Every write up ive seen abuot the bars has said the opposite of what u say...they say 27mm hollow bar same as a 25mm bar
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a bar that large is going to make the car twitchy at speed.
imagine an emergency lane change on the x-way. snap oversteer is going to be happening before you know it.
oversteer isn't necessarily a bad thing, but snap oversteer is extremely dangerous.
imagine an emergency lane change on the x-way. snap oversteer is going to be happening before you know it.
oversteer isn't necessarily a bad thing, but snap oversteer is extremely dangerous.
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Yes please try it! The progress bar is nice but it seems they didn't take into account contact with the rear exhaust section. 2 hours in traffic with the thing rattling makes want to drive my car off a cliff
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Re: Anyone running the Hotchkis 27mm rear sway? (JdMK20Ahatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JdMK20Ahatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
ur gonna have to back that up cause that makes no sense....a tube is strong laterally right? when twisting where is the support? Every write up ive seen abuot the bars has said the opposite of what u say...they say 27mm hollow bar same as a 25mm bar</TD></TR></TABLE>
download this and read it
http://www.hotchkistuning.com/...D.pdf
ur gonna have to back that up cause that makes no sense....a tube is strong laterally right? when twisting where is the support? Every write up ive seen abuot the bars has said the opposite of what u say...they say 27mm hollow bar same as a 25mm bar</TD></TR></TABLE>
download this and read it
http://www.hotchkistuning.com/...D.pdf
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Halo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes please try it! The progress bar is nice but it seems they didn't take into account contact with the rear exhaust section. 2 hours in traffic with the thing rattling makes want to drive my car off a cliff</TD></TR></TABLE>
my thoughts with the progress rear and hks exactly. some good info here.
my thoughts with the progress rear and hks exactly. some good info here.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Halo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes please try it! The progress bar is nice but it seems they didn't take into account contact with the rear exhaust section. 2 hours in traffic with the thing rattling makes want to drive my car off a cliff</TD></TR></TABLE>with the spoon N1 i have no problems (anymore) with rattling....and i may try the bar soon dunno...what i was planning on next was the race header...but i may save up and go with the spoon header so i may as well get the 27mm bar hmmmmm....
and after reading it....change my thoughts and probably am gonna try the bar if my buddy is willing to buy my progress bar...
and after reading it....change my thoughts and probably am gonna try the bar if my buddy is willing to buy my progress bar...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JdMK20Ahatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">about 380 depending on where u get it.... i may try the one route go throuh hotchkis and sport their name at autox to get a deal</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: Anyone running the Hotchkis 27mm rear sway? (JdMK20Ahatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JdMK20Ahatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
ur gonna have to back that up cause that makes no sense....a tube is strong laterally right? when twisting where is the support? Every write up ive seen abuot the bars has said the opposite of what u say...they say 27mm hollow bar same as a 25mm bar</TD></TR></TABLE>
Just keep in mind that the wall thicknesses are changed as well as material from DOM steel all the way to Moly, depending on the desired rates at time of development. This 27mm hollow bar that you purchase from Hotchkis is the same exact one that Bill Fenton runs on their #27 car in the Grand-Am Series RSX. If you have read Hondatuning Magazine, then you have seen the car. It is recommended that the 27mm bar be used for track purposes. This setup also will clear the Spoon Header (Per Edmun Laurea, President/CEO of Opak Racing).
The adjustability of the bar is rated at 202% and 220% stiffer than a factory RSX-S rear bar.
ur gonna have to back that up cause that makes no sense....a tube is strong laterally right? when twisting where is the support? Every write up ive seen abuot the bars has said the opposite of what u say...they say 27mm hollow bar same as a 25mm bar</TD></TR></TABLE>
Just keep in mind that the wall thicknesses are changed as well as material from DOM steel all the way to Moly, depending on the desired rates at time of development. This 27mm hollow bar that you purchase from Hotchkis is the same exact one that Bill Fenton runs on their #27 car in the Grand-Am Series RSX. If you have read Hondatuning Magazine, then you have seen the car. It is recommended that the 27mm bar be used for track purposes. This setup also will clear the Spoon Header (Per Edmun Laurea, President/CEO of Opak Racing).
The adjustability of the bar is rated at 202% and 220% stiffer than a factory RSX-S rear bar.
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