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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 09:58 AM
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my bro has a b16 that he got of one f his freinds after they screwed up their rex he knows its been abused and has some blow by but still runs resonalbly well . Hes not sure if he needs to build it back to stock or leave it a lone and if you think he should build it how far should he go ?
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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you should have the engine compression tested and go from there. How deep are your pockets and what are your goals?
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 10:45 AM
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he wants a daily driven mountain car and hes starting college so he dosent have that much spare cash
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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I really don't think a 1.6 can ever be called a mountain car, unless you get one hell of a good running start.
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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YA WELL U SHOULD REALLY NO ABOUT MOUNTAINS LEAVING IN FLORIDA
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 12:31 PM
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what is a "mountian car?"
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 12:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr_latino999 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I really don't think a 1.6 can ever be called a mountain car, unless you get one hell of a good running start.</TD></TR></TABLE>

LMFAO.

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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jisu009 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what is a "mountian car?"</TD></TR></TABLE>
A.K.A. a "Darwin Special"
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 02:01 PM
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yank the head off replace the head gasket, pull the pistons replace the rings and bearings and then get a new timing belt. If you have any more cash left over replace the water pump and oil pump. After that if funds permit replace valve seals and valve guides and get a valve job. You can do most of it yourself with a little reading of a haynes manual and ht of course. go to hondaautomotiveparts.com for good deals on parts.
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 05:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EFMAN &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">YA WELL U SHOULD REALLY NO ABOUT MOUNTAINS LEAVING IN FLORIDA </TD></TR></TABLE>

Leaving Florida? Yes, I have done that many times when I lived in Ohio going to W. Virginia and New England
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Steemo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yank the head off replace the head gasket, pull the pistons replace the rings and bearings and then get a new timing belt. If you have any more cash left over replace the water pump and oil pump. After that if funds permit replace valve seals and valve guides and get a valve job. You can do most of it yourself with a little reading of a haynes manual and ht of course. go to hondaautomotiveparts.com for good deals on parts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is your best bet it will be cheap and he will have a piece of mind knowing everything is all fresh and he can feel good about doin it himself
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 06:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turboZChatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

This is your best bet it will be cheap and he will have a piece of mind knowing everything is all fresh and he can feel good about doin it himself</TD></TR></TABLE>


kkkkkwwwahhat? seriously though....man you can just get another long block..and save all that trouble!!
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 11:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daidilus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">kkkkwwwahhat? seriously though....man you can just get another long block..and save all that trouble!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
trouble??? its not all that much work and it would be way more expensive to find another block that has also more than likely been abused. rings 100 bucks bearings 100 bucks, head gasket and timing belt 100 bucks... 300 dollars and you have a new bottom end. 150 for the water pump and oil pump then another 300 for a valve job and you are in good shape practically a new. so for 750 bucks you have an almost brand new motor that you dont have to worry about breaking down on you. but yeah whatever just go buy something that you know nothing about and slap it in there if you want... but i enjoy knowing I've done everything to my motor and knowing its been done <U>right</U>!
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 11:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
A.K.A. a "Darwin Special"</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly what I thought it was...just wanted to make sure
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 12:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr_latino999 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I really don't think a 1.6 can ever be called a mountain car, unless you get one hell of a good running start.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, a B16A/S1 is not bad mountain car. With that short fifth gear, it climbs hills quite well with no need to downshift. In fact, I would take a B16A/S1 for the mountains over a B18A/A1 or B18B/YS1 (the LS dos not have enough torque to pull fifth gear well with the LS transmission - even in a Civic). In fact, a B16A/S1 is as good in the hills as a B20Z/YS1.
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 02:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StorminMatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In fact, I would take a B16A/S1 for the mountains over a B18A/A1 or B18B/YS1 (the LS dos not have enough torque to pull fifth gear well with the LS transmission - even in a Civic).</TD></TR></TABLE>
What about a B18A/A1
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 04:08 AM
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how much is your bro paying for this b16 engine..?
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 05:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What about a B18A/A1 </TD></TR></TABLE>

Like I said, the B16A/S1 is the better hill climber. It pulls fifth on hills that require a downshift with the B18A/A1.
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 06:23 AM
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ya you go and put new rings in without honing the cyl.. it'll be worse

just do a damn compression test and tell us what u got.
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 06:28 AM
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i dont get it...all that rigamarole...to rebuild a tired B16 when you can get another long block for 500 bux.....you said abused....what about the condition of the crank? the bearings? what is you do all that, and then the tensile strenght of the crank...or the main bearings is down because of abuse.....just save the trouble and get a fresh JDM B16
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 01:34 PM
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I THINK 100 FOR THE MOTOR ,AXELS ,MOUNTS SHIFT LINKAGE AND A FRONT BUMPER .
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 02:02 PM
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thats cheap. rebuild it. it isnt hard
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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If the head is in good working order, throw it on an LS block.. they are dime a dozen.
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 03:15 PM
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to do a rebuild it would cost no more than 400-500 dollars. and it would be a good mountain car. i live in colorado and drive the rockies damn near every day and my tired *** b16 did it with no problems. some points are over 10,000 ft above sea leval. talk about a gutless b16.
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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humn a B18A1 with a short A! is just horriable "mountain" car. cough cough
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