i want to see some B20 setups (not B20/VTEC), specs and numbers in any chassis. im planning on doing a built B20 and want to se what everyone else is doing and what kind of numbers i can expect.

 

i havent got my car on the dyno yet but i have a b20vtec setup with s2im,dc 4- headers,apexi n-1 cat back,custom intake,vafc,s2 chipped ecu,s2 cam gears,cluch masters 8lb flywheel,msd digital 6 with blaster 2 coil,msd wires,denso iridiums,rc 310s,bbk fuel pump,aem fuel rail,b&m fuel pressure regulator. some people dont like the hybrid setups and talk down about them but i on the other hand like the hell out of mine. i would recomend a gsr tranny though if you can find one. currently with my setup on slicks i have run a 8.87@79 and 13.83@98.08 with full interior and no weight mods what so ever. its in my 93 civic coupe.

 

oh yea i know you said not b20vtec but if you are going the b20 route you should put a vtec head on it

 

nah i dont want to go the vtec route. trying to be diff.

 

Do a search there is a good amount of info on N/A B20's and LS's!

 

Its not going to look any different. Just an LS/B20 with prob some headers and an intake.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vtaaak y0 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its not going to look any different. Just an LS/B20 with prob some headers and an intake. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Whats that supposed to mean? Do you think Non-vtecs are not worth building?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by erebunicrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nah i dont want to go the vtec route. trying to be diff.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so your trying to be different like everyone else then ?

I added a K&N drop in filter to the stock box used the LS TB a Skunk 2 IM and hondata TB gasket kamikaze 2.5 in header and an exhaust basically the same as this



and made an average of 150 to the wheels with hondata tuning on a dyno pack so about 165 hp on a b20b tq was about 135 to the wheels

In a DA with a b16 cable trans and some weight loss it was very quick

 

Wouldnt the kamikaze header be bad for your setup? As its made for boosted apps. I think a JDM 4to1 would work alot better.

 

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I have had a DC 4-1, a Kamakaze 4-1, and now a JDM ITR 4-1 w/ 2.5" collector on my LS!

Kamakaze did better than my DC 4-1 and my JDM ITR did way better than my old Kamakaze! However, every motor is different!!!

 

Not with the way the headers designed, its not very NA friendly. IMO

 

no im not trying to be different. my friend wrote that. but i dont want to do vtec b/c everything is more expensive. i already have crower springs an ret. for the ls/b20. i just want to have an idea what mods i need to do to get a certain hp/tq. also what kinda compression schould i run with crower 404's.

 

ANYWAYS back on the topic and my time to shine I dont know if this will help. I have a b20vtec runing 14.22@102 on 16' wheels in a full interior EM1. I havent een to the dyno yet either.

 

if u don't want 2 spend the money on vtec stuff, a good setup would b a pnp head, crower 404's with valvetrain and a b16 tranny. But ur car is going 2 idle like **** cause of the low cr, but if u can find some b20z pistons, u'll be like at 9.6:1 i think, correct me if wrong.

 

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DC sports does'nt make a JDM 4-1 that is designed for the LS exhaust ports, even though it fits.

That header makes good power because it has a long smooth stretch to improve exhaust flow before it get's to all the flanges and bends and has near stock street clearance

For what I spent I was happy with the results though

 

No bro, i was talking about the ITR JDM 4to1 with a 2.5inch collector which came on ITR tegs from 98 on up.

 

yup, i was going with ib spec (wiseco) 11.3:1 pistons, crower 404's w/crower valvetrain, eagle rods, lmk if this sounds ok.

 

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Whats that supposed to mean? Do you think Non-vtecs are not worth building?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was being sarcastic. Dont almost every setup look similar?

 

I know alot of f00z almost giving away eagle rods because the bearings spin to easily

 

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Huh? Care to explain? Bearings just dont spin for the hell of it.

 

They seem to have a problem with the rod bolts staying tight. Most of the sets I here and see are all for the 1.8LS motors and many people have said the rod bearings are to narrow as it is so who knows but I see lots of deals locally on all the sets from b16 to h22

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by erebunicrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yup, i was going with ib spec (wiseco) 11.3:1 pistons, crower 404's w/crower valvetrain, eagle rods, lmk if this sounds ok.</TD></TR></TABLE>

11.3:1 will work great with the Crower 404's!

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I was being sarcastic. Dont almost every setup look similar? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, thats true!
However, same thing with a lot of the Vtec motors, their setup look pretty much alike too! If I were to post on my setup for my current build of my LS/Vtec then I'm sure there are plenty of ppl using the same stuff I am using!