RR98ITR

MBellRacing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joW83...eature=related

Watch 4:36, the wheel is up, it just skips, still isn't creating much traction. Game over?

914Racer

Except when compared to real professional touring cars such as those built back in the Super Touring era of the BTCC. That was a whole different ball game.

dirty19

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ooooooooooooooo thats a tough one to call Matt.
Looks like a skip but we dont see the track enough to see if it hit something?
Definitive?
Another angle?
The evidence is mounting
stay tuned...

RR98ITR

When the game is over, the game just starts over.

Scott, who doesn't know why he keeps playing..."It's so Useless!"

Stinkycheezmonky

Thanks for all the great pics anyway though!

dirty19

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Paul is convinced Scott has OCD, or was Einstein in another life.

RR98ITR

What do you think Einstein? Yeah, probably just OCD.

azian21485

sander

[plug] Yay i-Moto! [/of obvious plug to current employer].

dirty19

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This would be the exception.
I should of shown something like this, or explained that a tank while on a flat surface traveling at high rate of speed wont leave the ground while turning.

Just an added tidbit.
I have seen M-1A tanks get much higher than this and while in the air, and almost leveled off fire and hit Iraqi tanks on the run.
Awesome sight!

Johnny Mac

Yeah, because if they really cared we would still have double wishbones at both ends. This is okay though - for now - since I don't mind racing a 20 year-old car. After all, it's lighter, parts are cheaper, OBD I works fine, and it handles like it's on rails. Maybe later when parts for my old car are no longer available then I'll care. But by then, I'll probably be racing wheelchairs in a nursing home so it's all probably moot.

E-AT_me

i kind of want to play, but not really... google lends me this.. if i had photoshop skills, we could get rid of the curb..



and an old thread on here lends me to this:

https://honda-tech.com/forums/road-racing-autocross-time-attack-19/new-realtime-tsx-2528292/

front wheel is so close... soooooo cloooooose!!!

RR98ITR

So it appears that Realtime cars, again, being the most highly developed and exemplary front wheel drive racing cars on the planet, are now having their setups spec'd by new lead chassis engineer George Constanza, who, applying "The Opposite", has their roll stiffness biased to the front so that under baseline conditions the inside FRONT just barely but not quite lifts.

Scott, who may now have to continue rethinking the whole thing..."Hmmmmm"...

dirty19

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I didnt know George was a chassis engineer?

TunerN00b

You know, I've never looked at a train and thought "I wish my car handled like that!".

Or does that phrase just mean that the driver really doesn't have any control over steering, as if it was on rails?

My car handles like a go kart, lifting the inside rear tire to go around corners, so what do I know?

RR98ITR

Who knows what you know? I'm not even sure what I know. Which is why we should restrict ourselves to "what can be known" and "what is known", striving to reach "It is agreed then, amongst us now at this time and place, subject to immediate retroactive revision, denial, or "Big Deal Everybody knew That already!", that X is Known".

Scott, who...I know...like really...if ever...most likely Not...but just for a minute lets pretend...Uhm, I forgot what X we're talking about...

Johnny Mac

BTW, it is an old worn-out saying - as in like "cliche" - that is not meant to be taken literally. I can't even believe I'm having to explain myself on this.

RR98ITR

Hmmm...I know you're talking figuratively, but of course you have to be to describe how the car is feeling, but help me out: like it's on rails...does that feel like there's no self aligning torgue? Is it understeering or oversteering - which end of the car is pushing on the outside rail hardest? At your home track - Willow Springs - is the groove where you need to be to "rail"?

Scott, who thanks Johnny Mac in advance - he knows he wouldn't "steer" him wrong...

TunerN00b

I can't believe that my (rather lame) attempt at trolling seems to have actually worked...

Really, the saying is as absurd as my "handles like a go kart" remark. Karts don't have a suspension, so if a car really did handle like one, that would seriously suck.

Sorry about that. I figured any thread started by RR98ITR had room for word play...

E-AT_me

handling on rails.. i dunno, but this Z looks to be perfectly balanced riding on this rail:



same could be said of this pilot:



but personally, i don't think it's desired..

RR98ITR

Maybe what Johnny Mac is trying to say is that driving his race kaa is alot like riding on mass transit, and so his post is kind of "What's wrong with racing"?

Scott, who if he's right, hopes that Johnny Mac will let him know by texting him during his next race something like "Just "went by" Jeremy Croiset LOL"...

Egezzy

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that lip slide and the 50/50 looks pretty text book if you ask me. almost desired if i could say so myself.


or maybe it would say "i saw the brake check coming so i hooked him and "went by"."

soloteg

Nice grind by the Z-car.

descartesfool

So Bob Bolles has a new book. Was just reading some of its most cryptic pages last night. Made me think of this thread, all that lifting and Einstein stuff. In it, he says forget all the old ideas. You need to balance each end of the chassis on its own. Forget about roll resistance or something like that. Then it won't want to twist. You have to make the front roll as much as the springs want it to roll. Not let the rear springs boss the front springs around. Never knew springs "wanted" a car to roll this much or that much, but perhaps it's their little wants and needs we have all been been ignoring. Listen to what the springs are saying. And when the chassis starts to moan, you know you haven't been listening intently enough to those little twisted bits of metal. Back to the cryptic stuff. I had to skip forward into the chapter on tires cause I just couldn't take it anymore. I will try again.