<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by C-speed Ricer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Please clarify your statement about parents ignorance a little better. Very true but I'd like to know your perspective, exactly.

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Very few parents take the time or make the effort to be involved with their kid's education. Now, if you're a super student with no problem with self motivation, then it's not a problem. However, few students care very much about the advantages of becoming educated on their own. They need to be motivated or have the fear of not getting certain privledges to do the required work to become educated. All of this takes a certain level of parental involvement. And many parents just send their kids off to school and sort of expect the school system to do all the work.

It's very tough to be a good parent. Work all day, prepare meals, and try to relax from the stress of everyday life for a little while leaves very little time to be an involved parent. It's tough, I know, and I applaud parents that can somehow find the time and expend the energy to help their kids. Unfortunately, the way current society seems to work, many households have two working parents and little available time for getting involved in little Joey's or Janey's school lessons.

 

I forgot to mention one thing that struck me when I first moved here:
multiple choice/true-false tests. waddup wid dat? ALL our testing was essay style. Including sciences. You had a problem, you showed how to solve it. If you got the right answer but didn't show your work: no points.
It is so much easier to prep for a multiple choice test. We couldn't prep for a standardized test (out HS diploma exam) because it was all essay, and all the subjects/questions were held secret until the day of the test. I think that requiring students to move 100% to essay style tests would do a lot to start teaching them how to think, instead of learning by rote.

JMO.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SJR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For example, for you engineers, by the time I graduated HS, I knew calculus (1,2,3) differential equation, college level physics, chemistry, anatomy and biology. I could also read english (with a disctionary 'cause my vocabulary was lacking) understood some spanish, could do structured programming (in Fortran, but hey, 'them were the 80s) and I knew more history and geography (world, not just france) than about 90% of HS grads in the states. And I was a fairly average student - what can I say, I was (am) lazy...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Its funny that you mention this, when I graduated I had a 2.0 GPA. Our exit exams were the University of Cambridge GCE A Levels and I took mine in physics, chem and math. In our standards I was a very mediocre student since I ended up with a C, D and a B respectively in the three subjects. By US standards I was good enough to get out of Calculus 1 and 2 and both physics and chem courses required for engineers.

I spent 3 years working at the learning centers, the jump from HS to college for most freshmen were just massive. Once of the common complaints I heard was that the teachers didn't provide them with a good enough foundation on the subject.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Johnny Mac &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can't blame Bush for this problem. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Bush isn't completely to blame for the public school crisis in the US, but the NCLB Act hasn't done anything but harm good school systems. My school district has been top-notch for decades. Complying with NCLB has just been a drain on resources that would have otherwise been used to educate.

Case in point - my mother teaches ESOL in an extremely diverse school. These ESOL student must pass the Standards of Learning exams (as dictated by NCLB). So, instead of teaching them English, as she was trained and is paid to do, she teaches them how to pass a multiple choice exam without knowing the answers. Fan-fvcking-tastic!

 

ESOL = Extremely **** Out of Luck?

 

i got good grades in high school. i got good grades in college. i tested well on the "tests" needed to get into schools. i have one BS and am almost done with my second. I'm also almost done with my masters. and i still cant get a good job hard work and half a brain havent got me far... now i kind of wish i goofed off more

 

Maybe if you stopped piling up degrees you'd have time to look for a decent job.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Apocalypse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ESOL = Extremely **** Out of Luck?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Close, but no cigar...

English for Speakers of Other Languages

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MMsportsRexSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got good grades in high school. i got good grades in college. i tested well on the "tests" needed to get into schools. i have one BS and am almost done with my second. I'm also almost done with my masters. and i still cant get a good job hard work and half a brain havent got me far... now i kind of wish i goofed off more </TD></TR></TABLE>

All the degrees in the world won't help if you don't know what you want to do with your life.

 

well i know what i want to do... do nothing and get paid way too much for it ... **** it sounds like my boss... i'm on my way

 

The kids get grounded for less than Bs not to pressure them but to focus them. Its easy for them to get the As (as they've proven) if they stay focused, its also easy for them to get unfocused.

What do they get grounded from?
- TV (all 280 channels, 275 of them CRAP)
- Internet
- Playstation

As far as having abilities to figure out simple things and just plain common sense, they've shown that they have that already (at least as much as a teenager can have).
As far as bad influences away from home... Oh you bet your ***. There's a whole lot of bad parenting going on out there.
Want to have some fun? Try to keep your 12 year old daughter out of super low rise jeans when thats ALL she sees on TV and is what all of her friends are wearing. Low rise jeans on a 12 year old is just plain stupid, and ours hates us because we won't let her wear what all of her friends are wearing.
To define - We're talking about the jeans that show asscrack when the kids bend over. Yeah, good stuff.

I currently don't highly recommend parenting in our culture. If you are considering it just do yourself a favor and get a Labrador Retriever. They are friggin awesome, and never tell you that you should pay them $20 for cleaning their own room.

 

Of course your daughter doesn't like to roll in poop and then try and give you a hug.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSpeedR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">roll in poop</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually its Georgia red clay and it has claimed a whole bunch of white T-Shirts.
I'm not complaining, it beats the hell out of poop.

Scott, clarifying that he's talking about the dog, not the kid.

 

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To define - We're talking about the jeans that show asscrack when the kids bend over. Yeah, good stuff.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't get the point of those jeans anyway. I see girls wearing them, and it makes them look like they have no *** at all, like Hank Hill.

 

Maybe that's the point of those jeans. "Hey, I'm not fat see I have no ***".

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Johnny Mac &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe that's the point of those jeans. "Hey, I'm not fat see I have no ***".</TD></TR></TABLE>

Can't help myself...

So your girlfriend throws a Honda
Playin workout tapes by Fonda
But Fonda ain't got a motor in the back of her Honda
My anaconda don't want none unless you've got buns hun

 

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Can't help myself...

So your girlfriend throws a Honda
Playin workout tapes by Fonda
But Fonda ain't got a motor in the back of her Honda
My anaconda don't want none unless you've got buns hun</TD></TR></TABLE>

Being that we're on the topic of asses and you're "Crack Monkey", ohhh never mind. Just say no to Crack ....errr....I mean crack.

 

Is the Crack Monkey on crack?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94accordsedan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is the Crack Monkey on crack? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Haven't you seen the Crack Monkey T-shirt. Yes, the monkey's on crack.

http://shop.shirtsbymail.com/10035.html

 

Did he get on crack for staring at too many cracks, or did he crack his skull because he failed to pay the crack dealer.

 

You can do side bends or sit-ups, but please don't lose that butt.

Quiz: How many prepositions were used in that line of song lyric?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TeamSlowdotOrg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can do side bends or sit-ups, but please don't lose that butt.

Quiz: How many prepositions were used in that line of song lyric? </TD></TR></TABLE>

None.

You= noun
can do= verb
side bends = noun
or = conjunction
sit-ups = noun
but = conjunction
please = interjection?
don't lose = verb
that = pronoun, demonstrative
butt = noun

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Catch 22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The kids get grounded for less than Bs not to pressure them but to focus them. Its easy for them to get the As (as they've proven) if they stay focused, its also easy for them to get unfocused.

What do they get grounded from?
- TV (all 280 channels, 275 of them CRAP)
- Internet
- Playstation

As far as having abilities to figure out simple things and just plain common sense, they've shown that they have that already (at least as much as a teenager can have).
As far as bad influences away from home... Oh you bet your ***. There's a whole lot of bad parenting going on out there.
Want to have some fun? Try to keep your 12 year old daughter out of super low rise jeans when thats ALL she sees on TV and is what all of her friends are wearing. Low rise jeans on a 12 year old is just plain stupid, and ours hates us because we won't let her wear what all of her friends are wearing.
To define - We're talking about the jeans that show asscrack when the kids bend over. Yeah, good stuff.

I currently don't highly recommend parenting in our culture. If you are considering it just do yourself a favor and get a Labrador Retriever. They are friggin awesome, and never tell you that you should pay them $20 for cleaning their own room.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You seem to have a good idea about parenting and I agree COMPLETELY with you about clothes.


A problem I've had for a very long time is the current "Mtv generation" pays too much attention to actors or singers (Brittney, ehhemmm!!!) and how they portray them selves as people and fashion icons. Its ashame that a young girl would feel more comfortable in short skirt then a pair of levi jeans. But thats Television for you.

Anyone have any thoughts on violence and television and their relationship?


Modified by C-speed Ricer at 2:18 PM 8/3/2005

 

The clothes little girls wear now is getting out of control, I agree.

Violence in movies and games: like I said before, parents need to develope their children's sense of right and wrong (morality, whatever) at a young age. I watched lots of violent **** all day and played Mortal Kombat and all that, but I can't remember ever getting into a serious fight. I could associate the difference between reality and fictional entertainment (why violence is entertaining is another topic). Parents don't do that anymore. My parents kept me on a very long leash...but I still had a leash. [insert joke about rolling in poop with said leash]

 

There have been a number of studies done by various institutions/universities all over the U.S. showing that children who watched violent television shows or movies were considerably more aggressive with peers and teachers. Also, showed that children would act out what they had seen not understanding that it was fictitious becoming violent, as well as, limiting the capacity to absorb information, like positive information.

I agree %100 that parents do not supervise their children and what they are introduced to especially considering that now the average family consists of two working adults and two children. Also, to be noted is the dramatic rise in the child care industry. No one is spending time with their children any longer so children are finding inspiration elsewhere...Like MTv.