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Old May 5, 2013 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TunerN00b
Since the desire here seems to be to achieve all changes through aero...

Consider an annular wing, instead of the more typical wing. Reduced rear lift and reduced drag, a relatively unique look, but no real downforce production. You'd have to go 100% custom though.

Or vortex generators on the roof to reduce rear lift. Or a properly designed spoiler for the same effect. If you already have a spoiler, try adding a gurney flap. Or a full belly pan and a rear diffuser. Lots of available options here that aren't traditional wings.
thanx i was looking into vortex generators or considering making a diffuser. probably what this car needs is just smoothing out the air more then downforce.. whats an annular wing? google gives some weird pictures lol
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Old May 5, 2013 | 07:08 PM
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maybe you are after mechanical grip and not downforce? For Autox, aero bits dont help much at all but mechanical does.
hmm i dont autox that much, my issue resides in highspeed turns. maybe just reducing lift would be more valuable then making downforce
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Old May 6, 2013 | 06:30 AM
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Old May 6, 2013 | 06:35 AM
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hmm i dont autox that much, my issue resides in highspeed turns. maybe just reducing lift would be more valuable then making downforce
...a full underside maybe?
I think you have a coupe correct, hard to tell by the small images?
I'm running a 2000 EX coupe with a front splitter and rear APR adjustable wing, no diffuser or underside work [yet]. I also had a loose tail end until an adjustable wing was added, problem solved. Front grip was then the issue, front splitter and air dam was installed and that problem was also solved. With all the grip I was then getting, oil starvation started to be the main issue...lol.

I'm not sure as I have never attempted underside only work to solve my loose tail end. I've not found a bolt on kit as of yet and may be the reason I never did that. Seems to be a ton of work for something that would get a bit of abuse. My front splitter from one "off" was almost destroyed and took some time to get back to working condition again, can you imagine repairing a full underside?

Hope that was remotely helpful for you...good luck with your soultion and please let us know what you did.
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Old May 6, 2013 | 09:51 AM
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thanx i was looking into vortex generators or considering making a diffuser. probably what this car needs is just smoothing out the air more then downforce.. whats an annular wing? google gives some weird pictures lol
Basically, an extension of the body, tapered in, to produce a "kammback" type effect.

Sorry, large picture. Google seems to produce many more images for plane/jet use than automotive, and I don't have time to do a better search.
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Old May 9, 2013 | 05:45 AM
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...a full underside maybe?
I think you have a coupe correct, hard to tell by the small images?
I'm running a 2000 EX coupe with a front splitter and rear APR adjustable wing, no diffuser or underside work [yet]. I also had a loose tail end until an adjustable wing was added, problem solved. Front grip was then the issue, front splitter and air dam was installed and that problem was also solved. With all the grip I was then getting, oil starvation started to be the main issue...lol.

I'm not sure as I have never attempted underside only work to solve my loose tail end. I've not found a bolt on kit as of yet and may be the reason I never did that. Seems to be a ton of work for something that would get a bit of abuse. My front splitter from one "off" was almost destroyed and took some time to get back to working condition again, can you imagine repairing a full underside?

Hope that was remotely helpful for you...good luck with your soultion and please let us know what you did.
that is very helpfull thanx. i do have a 99 ex coupe. how does it look with the apr wing? i know this chassis is easy to make look weird lol. ive been looking into materials llike trailer wall lining to underpanel the front and rear sections. still alot of work when your upside down. im deff gonna work on a splitter now.all i have is a type r lip, ya huge air pocket down the middle lol
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Old May 9, 2013 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by TunerN00b
Basically, an extension of the body, tapered in, to produce a "kammback" type effect.

Sorry, large picture. Google seems to produce many more images for plane/jet use than automotive, and I don't have time to do a better search.
oh thats crazy lookin. never seen anyone utilize that idea
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Old May 9, 2013 | 06:33 AM
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that is very helpfull thanx. i do have a 99 ex coupe. how does it look with the apr wing? i know this chassis is easy to make look weird lol. ive been looking into materials llike trailer wall lining to underpanel the front and rear sections. still alot of work when your upside down. im deff gonna work on a splitter now.all i have is a type r lip, ya huge air pocket down the middle lol
here is my creation... which I think is a good setup for "grip" front and rear. To each their own!
And yes, there is more car than tallent at this stage, lol. Have yet to find the edge in other words.






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Old May 11, 2013 | 02:10 PM
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here is my creation... which I think is a good setup for "grip" front and rear. To each their own!
And yes, there is more car than tallent at this stage, lol. Have yet to find the edge in other words.
that looks good man. basically what im trying to do lol the wing isnt as bad as i thought but id still better get my splitter figured out. i was thinking of using that chargespeed rep lip too
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Old May 11, 2013 | 03:49 PM
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This month's GRM has an article about rear diffusers....this may help you with rear grip. Even shows a set up on a Civic (coupe IIRC)
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Old May 13, 2013 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve@Spreen
This month's GRM has an article about rear diffusers....this may help you with rear grip. Even shows a set up on a Civic (coupe IIRC)
thanx ill check them out
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