JDMboi27

[FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"]I'm new to Beaverton,Or area and i just have a 95 Honda civic 1.6 L D16Z6 VTEC I4 and the pistons are blow (im guessing?) It just smokes and burns oil every time i drive it. I put oil ever 2 day or so, its also losing power mostly up hills, I was told " fixing" the piston will coast as much as a engine swap so ill rather do that and know its a better engine. The only problem is that i dont know anymore out in Oregon and i don't have mechanic, Last year i had a 91 honda hatch back and got a engine off "craigslist" which ened up coasting me way more money then i thought. so this time i would like to find someone that actually knows what there doing. [/FONT]

98civdx

stop typing in all bold...

Unless you blew the ring lands there more then likely is nothing wrong with the pistons. (Assuming this.)

From what I can understand, you need to replace the piston rings.

speedjunkie_g35

Same thing I was thinking!! Hone and rings are much cheaper than engine swap IMO!!! But this is also coming from the guy that used my dizzy went out to justify to the wife a GSR motor swap.

JDMboi27

Sorry for typing in bold!! Well I was told fixing just the piston they would need take off the head and then take its to a machine shop and do what they do, and it would cost about the same as a swap. And wondering if its just one bad piston will they just fix that one and leave the rest to fall part soon or later? or it is just one big thing they have to fix and its good as new? Should i just do a diagnostic to see what actually wrong with it because i took it to one random mechanic cause it was smoking so bad. Plus Ive talked to my gf's brother (who is a VW mechanic)


Sorry for having so many question

JDMboi27

Rings are not a very expensive part, but fitting new ones is usually very costly. This is because to fit them, the mechanic must essentially take the whole engine apart. Therefore the labour costs are the major factor. Once going that far, one might as well correct many other problems found inside - so fitting new rings is usually done as part of an entire engine rebuild/reconditioning.

Yea ill just do a swap~

98civdx

Yes they will need to remove the head. Going to the machine shop for a fresh hone is highly reccomended.


OEM rings will run about $150.


You could find a new long block, but you risk that one having issues as well. As you've already found out.

kyden

in this case, not really. a good condition d16z6 should be under $200. granted you have to weed out a lot of beat motors, but it is possible.

Hidenplanvew

You can swap it out, or fix it your self and you dont have to use oem for rings... I havent had a problem with aftermarket. Your at a point you could build it for turbo, or leave it oem. It could also be valve seals which is an easy fix, you need to do a compression check and a leak down test wouldnt hurt eather. Going through a shop it might be the same as doing the swap your self. its all about choices, you need to make.. We can give you advice all day but its your money and your car. An Ls swap can be done in a day if you know what you are doing or a rebuild about a 3 days if you have all the parts ready to go.

monkeerench

I think you should get a compression tester. With a full charged battery
, fuel pump disconnected. Crank the engine 5 to 6 times.
Do this for all the cylinders. Write down each reading for all cylinders.
there should be no more than 15% difference between cylinders.
Then add a teaspoon of oil to each cylinder. Then perform
The same test to each cylinder again. Remember add the oil just
before the compression test to the cylinder. If you find a cylinder goes up in compression
it has a ring problem. If there is no change the you have a head
Problem. This will give you a idea if how my much to spend on a repair.
This will be a lot cheaper than leak down tester. Gl.

JDMboi27

Yea I have no idea how to do any of that stuff, but thanks I do have the money to fix it. I found a place that will do swap for 1300 low miles that includes labor. I don't wanna go with a random "Craigslist" person that say one thing and says something else. Idk anyone out here that knows Honda's so I'll go to a shop plus I don't have time to really deal with all this stuff. I do need it done this week/weekend but thanks lot for the feed back (:

speedjunkie_g35

Yeah, thats true. I was thinking more of doing 90% of the work if it was me but not everyone can tear their car apart and put it back together.

JDMboi27

Blow head gasket as well or maybe just blown head gasket weird how it still drive my Tacoma just died when the head gasket went to ****, no more used care for me.