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Old 12-17-2002, 08:06 AM
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Default Swaping Secrets???

I am swaping a b16a into my 94 civ.

Are there any littel things that you guys know of that will help this go easyer?
Did you incounter and major problems installing your engine?
Any helpful suggestions, retaing to the install?

I want to know if there are any swap guides out there that will help me. I have looked at a few, but I still want more of a refrence to my car. Any info would be great.
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Default Re: Swaping Secrets??? (civicvteckid)

Have all the tools you need. A big *** breaker bar. Someone to bring you food and drinks..... And if possible a friend and an open mind.

I always start on the bottom of the engine. Remove axles, shift linkage, mounts, exhaust. Then I start on top, disconect the wiring from the chassis but not from the motor. Leave the harness on the motor. Radiatior, power steering lines, heater hoseses and vacum lines as well as gas lines. Then start on the top mounts.
Old 12-17-2002, 09:22 AM
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good tip!
thanks

Im doin this at my girlfriends house so she got the food and drinks coverd. She said she will help me, if so ill be posting some pics, haha.
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good tip!
thanks

Im doin this at my girlfriends house so she got the food and drinks coverd. She said she will help me, if so ill be posting some pics, haha.

heh, hope ya go tools!

Tip: Don't forget a 32mm socket for the axle nut.

Secret Trick: If you don't have a punch to take out the shift linkage pin, if you have an A/C compressor, you can use one of the long-*** pointed 12mm A/C compressor bolts as a punch.
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Just keep things organized..... Toss all the bolts into a big pile then throw them out in your lawn.... hehe j/k... Organization helps tho... Peace
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dont forget the Helms Manuals if you havent done this before. To make things easier, get one for the car, and one for the engine. This will help in Wiring, and vacuum hoses....And Torque specs
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Thanks guys!

Ill be posting pics in a few weeks.......if i can figure out how to do that!

Im sure ill be needing some help once I start this whole thing.

O yeah, what is going to been done special for the wiring or will I jsut be replcing all the wiring thats there with the wires that come with my engine?
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Beer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Default Re: Swaping Secrets??? (civicvteckid)

For them cars with Air Cond., how do you guys pull the engine out from up top when the stupid metal lines on the tranny side are right above the tranny and they are blocking it from coming straight up? (I pulled the engine out from underneath but prefer next time through the top.)
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Beer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
thats funny thats how my swap started. me and two friends had just over a 12pack i us when decided to take the old motor out (1.6 dz16yz...... whatever) it only took about 1 hour. we were all very use to working on cars, and the beer made useing the big hammer very fun!! no to mention very funny when one of the guys hit his own hand with it.
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O thats the secret, BIG HAMMERS!!!!! What about a nice big cut-off tourch.

Cant say I can drink (legaly) so Ill have a nice talk glass of milk, in a dirty glass of corse.

Got my axels yesterday, from http://www.raxels.com, thos guys are great! He even shipped it out the same day I ordered it.

This is what Ive got so far:

B16A1 Engine
5 spd cable tranny
Engine Mounts
Hyrdo to Cable conversion kit
NEW CV joints ( driver and pass. side) from a Teg.
Upper radiator hose


IM sooooooooo excited, I cant even sleep at night!!!!

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Default Re: Swaping Secrets??? (civicvteckid)

Yeah heres a big one that nobody ever mentions.....

You have to find the blue fairy and sprinkle some of here magic dust on to the intake mani of your new motor to work properly!!


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For them cars with Air Cond., how do you guys pull the engine out from up top when the stupid metal lines on the tranny side are right above the tranny and they are blocking it from coming straight up? (I pulled the engine out from underneath but prefer next time through the top.)
No one pulls the engine through the top?
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I was under the impression that you pulled it form the top, is this not true? I think liftin the car would be sooooo much easyer......
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For them cars with Air Cond., how do you guys pull the engine out from up top when the stupid metal lines on the tranny side are right above the tranny and they are blocking it from coming straight up? (I pulled the engine out from underneath but prefer next time through the top.) No one pulls the engine through the top?
Honda engines are made to come out from the bottom. So much easier. Just use the cherry picker to lower the engine to the ground. We usually put a crawler underneath. Then use the cherry picker to pick up the front end (or 3 or 4 people, we've done that before) and then just roll the engine out the side. Much easier I think. That's the way they were made to come out and go back in. Honda's way is usually good!

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I was hopin it came out the bottom......thanks!
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Default Re: Swaping Secrets??? (civicvteckid)

To add on taking it out of the bottom you dont even need to rent a cherry picker. Cause not everyone has one in they garage. if you do it right you can use two floor jacks. I do it all the time. Just put the car on jack stands(which you should already know). And put a jack on the tranny and one on the oil pan(trying not mess up the pan use a piece of wood if you have too) and take either the front or rear mounts and then the sidemounts.One at a time and make sure everthing is inplace. And lower it slowly..if done right its pretty easy.....
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Default Re: Swaping Secrets??? (h23motor)

i did my zc and pulled from the top just separated the a/c lines now just have to get it refilled even put in from the top
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Honda engines are made to come out from the bottom. So much easier.
Oh cool, I didn't know that! I thought it was easier from the top since I wouldn't have 3-4 guys sitting around and waiting just to help me lift up the car. So the cherry picker is able to lift the car up high enough to clear the engine then right?
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take the t-body off the intake manifold, a TPS sensor smashed against the firewall will ruin your day.
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ha ha just lower the car till the engine sits on the oil pan and finish removing the mounts. Lift the car and walaa!
You know whats funny, I was actully thinking of doing that, I dont care about the ZC comin out of there so thats not to bad of an idea!! haha
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patience is a necessity
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Any pointers on reinstalling the engine back up? Anything you guys found out that made things a little easier?...for future knowledge when next swap occurs.
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I've seen pictures of the engine swaps in Japan when the motors are too old for the laws. They just drop the engine by lifting the cars off the motors and cart them around to the new motor and lower it on to it.
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get some freinds to help you. make sure they have some mechanical experience and knowlegde and muscle. good luck!!


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