no flaming ...b16 questions ( SEARCHED )
09-12-2003, 02:55 PM
#1
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no flaming ...b16 questions ( SEARCHED )
I searced through 15 archieved pages of b16 install pages and i got some questions that wherent answered
the first gen b16 is going in my 90 Civic STD
I have the MPFI conversion in the mail as we speak so what other wiring do i have to do...
1**i know i have to run a vtec wire...(how, where?)
2**What kind of tranny should i get? [Cable(Y1, S1, J1)]
What kind of ECU? (PR3, PW0)
3**Im plaining on getting the hasport conversion for this swap will that give me all directions and instructions on wiring?
4**while out of the car what should i replace...i know i should replace the timing belt...and what else and what kind of car will all of this stuff come off of?
thank you guys for you time and like i said i searched and found nothing most if not all were topics about putting the b16 in a eg
Modified by ind3ciso at 9:09 PM 9/12/2003
the first gen b16 is going in my 90 Civic STD
I have the MPFI conversion in the mail as we speak so what other wiring do i have to do...
1**i know i have to run a vtec wire...(how, where?)
2**What kind of tranny should i get? [Cable(Y1, S1, J1)]
What kind of ECU? (PR3, PW0)
3**Im plaining on getting the hasport conversion for this swap will that give me all directions and instructions on wiring?
4**while out of the car what should i replace...i know i should replace the timing belt...and what else and what kind of car will all of this stuff come off of?
thank you guys for you time and like i said i searched and found nothing most if not all were topics about putting the b16 in a eg
Modified by ind3ciso at 9:09 PM 9/12/2003
09-12-2003, 06:45 PM
#3
Re: no flaming ...b16 questions (ind3ciso)
You couldn't find that in 15+ pages of B16A install threads? 
That's like... B16A 101.
Anyway...
1) VTEC wire runs from the ECU to the VTEC solenoid. Where you choose to run it and how is your business. I chose to use shielded wire, ground both ends of the shielding, solder the wire to the VTEC solenoid pin on the ECU harness (I forget which it is) and then solder it onto the VTEC solenoid clip that came with the engine.
2) What kind of tranny do you want? J1 = S1 pretty much. Y1 = YS1 pretty much. J1/S1 has shorter gears than Y1/YS1, so it's faster, but highway driving sucks. I have an S1.
3) PR3 or PW0, doesn't matter, get either. If it's a PW0 it could be an automatic tranny ECU, however, so open it up if you get a PW0 and make sure it's stamped "M/T". If it's stamped "A/T" you're fooked.
(Your #ing is messed up)
4) HASport conversion? I don't know. I bought the mounts from a local shop so I didn't get conversion instructions. I used instructions I found by searching the Web, and asked a lot of questions on Honda-Tech.
5) Replace as much as you want to to feel safe. Timing belt, water pump, oil, oil filter, transmission fluid (use Honda MTF), distributor cap + rotor, spark plugs (BKR6E-11 NGK copper works great) and spark plug wires (del Sol VTEC), cam seals, oilpan gasket, valvecover grommets (del Sol VTEC), injectors, throttlebody gasket, IACV, etc. Some people go so far as to do the valve seals, valvesprings, lost motion assemblies (I wish I could afford to replace mine). Do as much as you feel comfortable doing. At least do the cap, rotor, waterpump, timing belt, spark plugs, oil, filter, and tranny fluid. After you've verified it's running right I highly recommend doing a valve adjustment.
That's like... B16A 101. Anyway...
1) VTEC wire runs from the ECU to the VTEC solenoid. Where you choose to run it and how is your business. I chose to use shielded wire, ground both ends of the shielding, solder the wire to the VTEC solenoid pin on the ECU harness (I forget which it is) and then solder it onto the VTEC solenoid clip that came with the engine.
2) What kind of tranny do you want? J1 = S1 pretty much. Y1 = YS1 pretty much. J1/S1 has shorter gears than Y1/YS1, so it's faster, but highway driving sucks. I have an S1.
3) PR3 or PW0, doesn't matter, get either. If it's a PW0 it could be an automatic tranny ECU, however, so open it up if you get a PW0 and make sure it's stamped "M/T". If it's stamped "A/T" you're fooked.
(Your #ing is messed up)
4) HASport conversion? I don't know. I bought the mounts from a local shop so I didn't get conversion instructions. I used instructions I found by searching the Web, and asked a lot of questions on Honda-Tech.
5) Replace as much as you want to to feel safe. Timing belt, water pump, oil, oil filter, transmission fluid (use Honda MTF), distributor cap + rotor, spark plugs (BKR6E-11 NGK copper works great) and spark plug wires (del Sol VTEC), cam seals, oilpan gasket, valvecover grommets (del Sol VTEC), injectors, throttlebody gasket, IACV, etc. Some people go so far as to do the valve seals, valvesprings, lost motion assemblies (I wish I could afford to replace mine). Do as much as you feel comfortable doing. At least do the cap, rotor, waterpump, timing belt, spark plugs, oil, filter, and tranny fluid. After you've verified it's running right I highly recommend doing a valve adjustment.
09-12-2003, 08:23 PM
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Re: no flaming ...b16 questions (raene)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raene »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You couldn't find that in 15+ pages of B16A install threads? That's like... B16A 101. </TD></TR></TABLE>
nope all they were about is "my car isnt running right" or how can i put a b16 in my tegie/eg but no love for the ed
Anyway...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raene »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1) VTEC wire runs from the ECU to the VTEC solenoid. Where you choose to run it and how is your business. I chose to use shielded wire, ground both ends of the shielding, solder the wire to the VTEC solenoid pin on the ECU harness (I forget which it is) and then solder it onto the VTEC solenoid clip that came with the engine. </TD></TR></TABLE>
thats all the additional wiring i have to do?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raene »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">2) What kind of tranny do you want? J1 = S1 pretty much. Y1 = YS1 pretty much. J1/S1 has shorter gears than Y1/YS1, so it's faster, but highway driving sucks. I have an S1.</TD></TR></TABLE>
why does highway driving suck? how much faster is the ys1 compared to the s1?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raene »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">3) PR3 or PW0, doesn't matter, get either. If it's a PW0 it could be an automatic tranny ECU, however, so open it up if you get a PW0 and make sure it's stamped "M/T". If it's stamped "A/T" you're fooked.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raene »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">4) HASport conversion? I don't know. I bought the mounts from a local shop so I didn't get conversion instructions. I used instructions I found by searching the Web, and asked a lot of questions on Honda-Tech.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i was on hmotorsonline and they will include a conversion harness for a dx/si for 60$ .
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raene »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">5) Replace as much as you want to to feel safe. Timing belt, water pump, oil, oil filter, transmission fluid (use Honda MTF), distributor cap + rotor, spark plugs (BKR6E-11 NGK copper works great) and spark plug wires (del Sol VTEC), cam seals, oilpan gasket, valvecover grommets (del Sol VTEC), injectors, throttlebody gasket, IACV, etc. Some people go so far as to do the valve seals, valvesprings, lost motion assemblies (I wish I could afford to replace mine). Do as much as you feel comfortable doing. At least do the cap, rotor, waterpump, timing belt, spark plugs, oil, filter, and tranny fluid. After you've verified it's running right I highly recommend doing a valve adjustment. </TD></TR></TABLE>
so pretty much anything off a del sol vtec will fit?
That's like... B16A 101. </TD></TR></TABLE>nope all they were about is "my car isnt running right" or how can i put a b16 in my tegie/eg but no love for the ed
Anyway...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raene »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1) VTEC wire runs from the ECU to the VTEC solenoid. Where you choose to run it and how is your business. I chose to use shielded wire, ground both ends of the shielding, solder the wire to the VTEC solenoid pin on the ECU harness (I forget which it is) and then solder it onto the VTEC solenoid clip that came with the engine. </TD></TR></TABLE>
thats all the additional wiring i have to do?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raene »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">2) What kind of tranny do you want? J1 = S1 pretty much. Y1 = YS1 pretty much. J1/S1 has shorter gears than Y1/YS1, so it's faster, but highway driving sucks. I have an S1.</TD></TR></TABLE>
why does highway driving suck? how much faster is the ys1 compared to the s1?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raene »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">3) PR3 or PW0, doesn't matter, get either. If it's a PW0 it could be an automatic tranny ECU, however, so open it up if you get a PW0 and make sure it's stamped "M/T". If it's stamped "A/T" you're fooked.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raene »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">4) HASport conversion? I don't know. I bought the mounts from a local shop so I didn't get conversion instructions. I used instructions I found by searching the Web, and asked a lot of questions on Honda-Tech.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i was on hmotorsonline and they will include a conversion harness for a dx/si for 60$ .
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raene »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">5) Replace as much as you want to to feel safe. Timing belt, water pump, oil, oil filter, transmission fluid (use Honda MTF), distributor cap + rotor, spark plugs (BKR6E-11 NGK copper works great) and spark plug wires (del Sol VTEC), cam seals, oilpan gasket, valvecover grommets (del Sol VTEC), injectors, throttlebody gasket, IACV, etc. Some people go so far as to do the valve seals, valvesprings, lost motion assemblies (I wish I could afford to replace mine). Do as much as you feel comfortable doing. At least do the cap, rotor, waterpump, timing belt, spark plugs, oil, filter, and tranny fluid. After you've verified it's running right I highly recommend doing a valve adjustment. </TD></TR></TABLE>
so pretty much anything off a del sol vtec will fit?
09-13-2003, 11:18 AM
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Re: no flaming ...b16 questions (ind3ciso)
Heheh I hear you... people always say 'search' but I swear the only results you get are threads full of people saying 'search' two years ago 
The additional wiring is for VTEC solenoid, knock sensor, oil pressure switch, and O2 sensor B. You can find the instructions for converting an Si harness to accept a PR3/PW0 ECU here at HASport.com.
Highway driving with the S1 sucks because at 70mph you're turning 4000 rpm in 5th gear. If highway traffic is moving faster than that, you end up cruising in VTEC.
You can do a DX->Si conversion yourself for under $60... HASport has instructions on their website (look in the Tech/Installation Instructions section of their site).
Not everything off a del Sol VTEC will work. I've been compiling a parts list for some time and here's a list of the parts that I KNOW will work for a B16A:
Part Part # or car
Axles (S1 intermediate shaft) Integra '90-'91, any make (non-ABS).
Throttle Cable '90-'91 Integra, any model. Part # 17910-SK7-A03 (Acura)
Clutch Cable '88-'91 CRX Si, may require modification to fit.
Shift Linkage + Torque Rod '90-'93 Integra, requires modification to fit, or buy pre-cut (highly advised)
Clutch Disc Integra non-GSR, '90-'91.
Clutch Plate Integra non-GSR, '90-'91 (?????)
Throwout/release bearing Integra GSR, '92-'93 (?????)
Flywheel bearing Intergra GSR, '92-'93 (?????)
Cam seal endplug Part # 12513-P30-000
Oil Filter Integra GSR, '92-'93.
Valvecover Gasket Part # 12341-PR3-000. del Sol VTEC '94+.
Oil Pan Gasket Part # 11251-P30-004, del Sol VTEC '94+.
Intake Manifold Gasket Part # 17105-P30-004, del Sol VTEC '94+.
Exhaust Manifold Gasket Part # 18115-P30-013, Del Sol VTEC, '94+.
Rear coolant hose (IACV?) Part # 19507-PR3-000 (Honda)
Cam Seals Part # 91213-PR3-013 (Honda)
Cam seal endplug Part # 12513-P30-000 (Honda)
Spark plug tower seals Part # 12342-PG6-000 (Honda)
Valve cover grommets Part # 90442-P30-000 (Honda)
Timing belt cover gasket Part # 11831-PR3-000 (Honda)
Head gasket del Sol VTEC '94+
Fuel injector O-rings Part # 91301-PM7-003, del Sol VTEC '94+
Fuel injector rail cushions Part # 16473-PD6-000, del Sol VTEC '94+
Distributor Cap and Rotor Integra non-VTEC kit from Acura ('90-'91 Integra LS) Part # 06303-PR4-000
Water Pump Part # 19200-P30-003, from a '92-'93 Integra GSR.
Front + Rear Crank Seal Integra GSR, '92-'93.
Throttle body gasket Integra LS, '90-'91 (????). del Sol VTEC does NOT fit.
IACV seal CRX Si, part # 36455-PR4-A01
IACV CRX Si
Upper + Lower Radiator Hose del Sol VTEC, '94+.
Timing Belt Part # 14400-PR3-004, del Sol VTEC '94+.
Spark Plugs Part # BKR6E-11 (NGK copper) GAP: 0.039-0.043
Rear Transmission Bracket Part # 50827-SK7-020, '90-'93 Integra non-VTEC (80% sure)
Coolant hose, back of block to intake manifold Part # 19507-PR3-000, del Sol VTEC '94+.
The additional wiring is for VTEC solenoid, knock sensor, oil pressure switch, and O2 sensor B. You can find the instructions for converting an Si harness to accept a PR3/PW0 ECU here at HASport.com.
Highway driving with the S1 sucks because at 70mph you're turning 4000 rpm in 5th gear. If highway traffic is moving faster than that, you end up cruising in VTEC.
You can do a DX->Si conversion yourself for under $60... HASport has instructions on their website (look in the Tech/Installation Instructions section of their site).
Not everything off a del Sol VTEC will work. I've been compiling a parts list for some time and here's a list of the parts that I KNOW will work for a B16A:
Part Part # or car
Axles (S1 intermediate shaft) Integra '90-'91, any make (non-ABS).
Throttle Cable '90-'91 Integra, any model. Part # 17910-SK7-A03 (Acura)
Clutch Cable '88-'91 CRX Si, may require modification to fit.
Shift Linkage + Torque Rod '90-'93 Integra, requires modification to fit, or buy pre-cut (highly advised)
Clutch Disc Integra non-GSR, '90-'91.
Clutch Plate Integra non-GSR, '90-'91 (?????)
Throwout/release bearing Integra GSR, '92-'93 (?????)
Flywheel bearing Intergra GSR, '92-'93 (?????)
Cam seal endplug Part # 12513-P30-000
Oil Filter Integra GSR, '92-'93.
Valvecover Gasket Part # 12341-PR3-000. del Sol VTEC '94+.
Oil Pan Gasket Part # 11251-P30-004, del Sol VTEC '94+.
Intake Manifold Gasket Part # 17105-P30-004, del Sol VTEC '94+.
Exhaust Manifold Gasket Part # 18115-P30-013, Del Sol VTEC, '94+.
Rear coolant hose (IACV?) Part # 19507-PR3-000 (Honda)
Cam Seals Part # 91213-PR3-013 (Honda)
Cam seal endplug Part # 12513-P30-000 (Honda)
Spark plug tower seals Part # 12342-PG6-000 (Honda)
Valve cover grommets Part # 90442-P30-000 (Honda)
Timing belt cover gasket Part # 11831-PR3-000 (Honda)
Head gasket del Sol VTEC '94+
Fuel injector O-rings Part # 91301-PM7-003, del Sol VTEC '94+
Fuel injector rail cushions Part # 16473-PD6-000, del Sol VTEC '94+
Distributor Cap and Rotor Integra non-VTEC kit from Acura ('90-'91 Integra LS) Part # 06303-PR4-000
Water Pump Part # 19200-P30-003, from a '92-'93 Integra GSR.
Front + Rear Crank Seal Integra GSR, '92-'93.
Throttle body gasket Integra LS, '90-'91 (????). del Sol VTEC does NOT fit.
IACV seal CRX Si, part # 36455-PR4-A01
IACV CRX Si
Upper + Lower Radiator Hose del Sol VTEC, '94+.
Timing Belt Part # 14400-PR3-004, del Sol VTEC '94+.
Spark Plugs Part # BKR6E-11 (NGK copper) GAP: 0.039-0.043
Rear Transmission Bracket Part # 50827-SK7-020, '90-'93 Integra non-VTEC (80% sure)
Coolant hose, back of block to intake manifold Part # 19507-PR3-000, del Sol VTEC '94+.
09-13-2003, 11:20 AM
#6
Re: no flaming ...b16 questions (raene)
Sorry I should have also noted in my post above that I HIGHLY recommend you have the flywheel resurfaced and you replace your clutch before installing the engine! I also chose to replace the front and rear main seals since it was all apart anyway. HTH 
09-13-2003, 11:22 AM
#7
Re: no flaming ...b16 questions (raene)
Another person's TIIITE B16A parts list is as follows (I haven't tested/checked this list for validity, so keep that in mind):
LIST NUMBER #1
Water Pump 19200-P30-003 94 - del sol
Head Gasket 12251-P30-014 94 - del sol
Oil Control Orfice O ring 15142-PH3-003 94 - del sol
Intake Manifold Gasket 17105-P30-004 94 - del sol
Exhaust Manifold Gasket 18115-P30-013 94 - del sol
throttle Body Gasket 16176-PR3-010 90-91 integra
Pcv valve 17130-PM6-G01 94 - del sol
Timing Belt 14400-PR3-004 94 - del sol
Alternator Belt 31110-PR3-003 94 - del sol
Tensioner 14510-P30-003 94 - del sol
Thermostat 19301-P08-305 90-91 integra / 94 del sol (same)
Connecting Pipe O rings (2) 91314-PH7-003 90-91 integra / 94 del sol (same)
Cap & Rotor Assembly 06303-PR4-000 90-91 integra
Rotor (If needed seperately) 30103-PR3-016 90-91 integra
Clutch Cable 22910-SK7-A02 90-91 integra
Throttle Cable 17910-SK7-A03 90-91 integra
Cam Seals (2) 91213-PR3-004 94 - del sol
Oil pan seal 11251-P30-004 94 - del sol
Oil Pump (comes with crank seal) 15100-PR3-024 94 - del sol
Oil Filter 15400-POH-305 94 - del sol
Oil Pick Up Gasket 15221-PW0-S01 94 - del sol
***** Pin Shift Linkage 91 crx si ???
Shift linkage bushing 54303-SB2-010 90-91 integra
crank seal 91212-PR3-003 94 - del sol
rear main seal 91214-PH1-004 90-91 integra / 94 del sol (same)
Valve cover grommets -8- 90442-P30-000 94 - del sol
Spark Plug O rings (4) 12342-P66-000 94 - del sol
Rubber plug for exhaust cam tranny side 94 - del sol
Spark Plugs (4) BKR6E-N11 NGK
Spark Plug Wires 32722-PR4-A01 92 - integra gsr
Upper Radiator Hose 19501-PR3-000 92 - integra gsr
Lower Radiator Hose 19502-PR4-A00 90-91 integra
Bypass Hose (Thermostat) 19508-P08-000 94 - del sol
Washer for coolant drain on block 90401-PR4-000 94 - del sol"
List NUMBER #2
Maintenance Items:
Gaskets Head gasket = US '94+ DelSol VTEC
Valve cover gasket = US '94+ DelSol VTEC
Spark plug O-ring gaskets = US '94+ DelSol VTEC
Intake manifold gasket = US '94+ DelSol VTEC
Exhaust manifold gasket = US '90-7 Integra or US '94+ DelSol VTEC
Spark Plugs = Any US B series motor
Cap and Rotor = US '90 Integra
Spark Plug Wires = Any US B series
Thermostat = US '90-1 Integra, US '94+ DelSol VTEC, '99+ Civic Si
Timing Belt = US '94+ DelSol VTEC
Water Pump = US '94+ DelSol VTEC
Lower Radiator Hose = '91 Integra
Upper Radiator Hose = Universal, may need trimming
Alternator = '90 Integra
or 94 GSR alternator, which puts out 90 amps
Oil Pan = Any US B series
Oil Pump = 94 DelSol VTEC
Crank Pulley = Any US B series
Clutch = US '92 Integra GSR
Pressure Plate = US '92 Integra GSR
Pilot Bearing = Any US Civic/Integra
Throw-out Bearing = US '91-2 Integra, P/N 22810-ps1-015 $47.05
Flywheel = Any US B series
Axles = http://www.raxles.com/, can use others, but best solution.
Intermediate Shaft = US '94+ DelSol VTEC
Mounts = http://www.hasport.com/
Shift Linkages = http://www.hasport.com/
Headers = best to use JDM B16
ANOTHER LIST:
Water Pump 19200-P30-003 94 - del sol $86.28
Head Gasket 12251-P30-014 94 - del sol $57.56
Oil Control Orfice O ring 15142-PH3-003 94 - del sol $1.36
Intake Manifold Gasket 17105-P30-004 94 - del sol $8.26
Exhaust Manifold Gasket 18115-P30-013 94 - del sol $11.30
throttle Body Gasket 16176-PR3-010 90-91 integra $4.71
Pcv valve 17130-PM6-G01 94 - del sol $11.98
Timing Belt 14400-PR3-004 94 - del sol $48.72
Alternator Belt 31110-PR3-003 94 - del sol $7.56
Tensioner 14510-P30-003 94 - del sol $50.94
Thermostat 19301-P08-305 90-91 integra / 94 del sol (same) $11.69
Connecting Pipe O rings (2) 91314-PH7-003 90-91 integra / 94 del sol (same) $2.76
Cap & Rotor Assembly 06303-PR4-000 90-91 integra $24.54
Rotor (If needed seperately) 30103-PR3-016 90-91 integra $6.87
Clutch Cable 22910-SK7-A02 90-91 integra $45.54
Throttle Cable 17910-SK7-A03 90-91 integra $17.18
Cam Seals (2) 91213-PR3-004 94 - del sol $8.52
Oil pan seal 11251-P30-004 94 - del sol $18.64
Oil Filter 15400-POH-305 94 - del sol $4.93
Shift linkage bushing 54303-SB2-010 90-91 integra $4.66
crank seal 91212-PR3-003 94 - del sol $5.78
rear main seal 91214-PH1-004 90-91 integra / 94 del sol (same) $12.00
Valve cover grommets (8) 90442-P30-000 94 - del sol $20.80
Spark Plug O rings (4) 12342-P66-000 94 - del sol $7.16
Rubber plug for exhaust cam tranny side 94 - del sol $4.00
Spark Plugs (4) BKR6E-N11 NGK $8.00
Upper Radiator Hose 19501-PR3-000 92 - integra gsr $14.71
Lower Radiator Hose 19502-PR4-A00 90-91 integra FREE BY MISTAKE
Bypass Hose (Thermostat) 19508-P08-000 94 - del sol $5.62
Washer for coolant drain on block 90401-PR4-000 94 - del sol $3.00
LIST NUMBER #1
Water Pump 19200-P30-003 94 - del sol
Head Gasket 12251-P30-014 94 - del sol
Oil Control Orfice O ring 15142-PH3-003 94 - del sol
Intake Manifold Gasket 17105-P30-004 94 - del sol
Exhaust Manifold Gasket 18115-P30-013 94 - del sol
throttle Body Gasket 16176-PR3-010 90-91 integra
Pcv valve 17130-PM6-G01 94 - del sol
Timing Belt 14400-PR3-004 94 - del sol
Alternator Belt 31110-PR3-003 94 - del sol
Tensioner 14510-P30-003 94 - del sol
Thermostat 19301-P08-305 90-91 integra / 94 del sol (same)
Connecting Pipe O rings (2) 91314-PH7-003 90-91 integra / 94 del sol (same)
Cap & Rotor Assembly 06303-PR4-000 90-91 integra
Rotor (If needed seperately) 30103-PR3-016 90-91 integra
Clutch Cable 22910-SK7-A02 90-91 integra
Throttle Cable 17910-SK7-A03 90-91 integra
Cam Seals (2) 91213-PR3-004 94 - del sol
Oil pan seal 11251-P30-004 94 - del sol
Oil Pump (comes with crank seal) 15100-PR3-024 94 - del sol
Oil Filter 15400-POH-305 94 - del sol
Oil Pick Up Gasket 15221-PW0-S01 94 - del sol
***** Pin Shift Linkage 91 crx si ???
Shift linkage bushing 54303-SB2-010 90-91 integra
crank seal 91212-PR3-003 94 - del sol
rear main seal 91214-PH1-004 90-91 integra / 94 del sol (same)
Valve cover grommets -8- 90442-P30-000 94 - del sol
Spark Plug O rings (4) 12342-P66-000 94 - del sol
Rubber plug for exhaust cam tranny side 94 - del sol
Spark Plugs (4) BKR6E-N11 NGK
Spark Plug Wires 32722-PR4-A01 92 - integra gsr
Upper Radiator Hose 19501-PR3-000 92 - integra gsr
Lower Radiator Hose 19502-PR4-A00 90-91 integra
Bypass Hose (Thermostat) 19508-P08-000 94 - del sol
Washer for coolant drain on block 90401-PR4-000 94 - del sol"
List NUMBER #2
Maintenance Items:
Gaskets Head gasket = US '94+ DelSol VTEC
Valve cover gasket = US '94+ DelSol VTEC
Spark plug O-ring gaskets = US '94+ DelSol VTEC
Intake manifold gasket = US '94+ DelSol VTEC
Exhaust manifold gasket = US '90-7 Integra or US '94+ DelSol VTEC
Spark Plugs = Any US B series motor
Cap and Rotor = US '90 Integra
Spark Plug Wires = Any US B series
Thermostat = US '90-1 Integra, US '94+ DelSol VTEC, '99+ Civic Si
Timing Belt = US '94+ DelSol VTEC
Water Pump = US '94+ DelSol VTEC
Lower Radiator Hose = '91 Integra
Upper Radiator Hose = Universal, may need trimming
Alternator = '90 Integra
or 94 GSR alternator, which puts out 90 amps
Oil Pan = Any US B series
Oil Pump = 94 DelSol VTEC
Crank Pulley = Any US B series
Clutch = US '92 Integra GSR
Pressure Plate = US '92 Integra GSR
Pilot Bearing = Any US Civic/Integra
Throw-out Bearing = US '91-2 Integra, P/N 22810-ps1-015 $47.05
Flywheel = Any US B series
Axles = http://www.raxles.com/, can use others, but best solution.
Intermediate Shaft = US '94+ DelSol VTEC
Mounts = http://www.hasport.com/
Shift Linkages = http://www.hasport.com/
Headers = best to use JDM B16
ANOTHER LIST:
Water Pump 19200-P30-003 94 - del sol $86.28
Head Gasket 12251-P30-014 94 - del sol $57.56
Oil Control Orfice O ring 15142-PH3-003 94 - del sol $1.36
Intake Manifold Gasket 17105-P30-004 94 - del sol $8.26
Exhaust Manifold Gasket 18115-P30-013 94 - del sol $11.30
throttle Body Gasket 16176-PR3-010 90-91 integra $4.71
Pcv valve 17130-PM6-G01 94 - del sol $11.98
Timing Belt 14400-PR3-004 94 - del sol $48.72
Alternator Belt 31110-PR3-003 94 - del sol $7.56
Tensioner 14510-P30-003 94 - del sol $50.94
Thermostat 19301-P08-305 90-91 integra / 94 del sol (same) $11.69
Connecting Pipe O rings (2) 91314-PH7-003 90-91 integra / 94 del sol (same) $2.76
Cap & Rotor Assembly 06303-PR4-000 90-91 integra $24.54
Rotor (If needed seperately) 30103-PR3-016 90-91 integra $6.87
Clutch Cable 22910-SK7-A02 90-91 integra $45.54
Throttle Cable 17910-SK7-A03 90-91 integra $17.18
Cam Seals (2) 91213-PR3-004 94 - del sol $8.52
Oil pan seal 11251-P30-004 94 - del sol $18.64
Oil Filter 15400-POH-305 94 - del sol $4.93
Shift linkage bushing 54303-SB2-010 90-91 integra $4.66
crank seal 91212-PR3-003 94 - del sol $5.78
rear main seal 91214-PH1-004 90-91 integra / 94 del sol (same) $12.00
Valve cover grommets (8) 90442-P30-000 94 - del sol $20.80
Spark Plug O rings (4) 12342-P66-000 94 - del sol $7.16
Rubber plug for exhaust cam tranny side 94 - del sol $4.00
Spark Plugs (4) BKR6E-N11 NGK $8.00
Upper Radiator Hose 19501-PR3-000 92 - integra gsr $14.71
Lower Radiator Hose 19502-PR4-A00 90-91 integra FREE BY MISTAKE
Bypass Hose (Thermostat) 19508-P08-000 94 - del sol $5.62
Washer for coolant drain on block 90401-PR4-000 94 - del sol $3.00
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09-13-2003, 06:28 PM
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Re: no flaming ...b16 questions (raene)
just for verification...the following will be needed to be wired in
*Vtec oild pressure sensor
*second 02 sensor
*knock snesor
*vtec soenoid
but everything else is plug and play from my std motor to the b16
*Vtec oild pressure sensor
*second 02 sensor
*knock snesor
*vtec soenoid
but everything else is plug and play from my std motor to the b16
09-13-2003, 06:37 PM
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Re: no flaming ...b16 questions (ind3ciso)
Std is DPFI, correct? The wiring instructions assume MPFI. If you have dual point fuel injection you need to 1) convert to MPFI, 2) convert to SiR specs.
09-13-2003, 09:12 PM
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Re: no flaming ...b16 questions (raene)
its not really hard but it will take time.
take it easy kick back and think and work.
you can convert to SIR or SI USA does not really matter.
take it easy kick back and think and work.
you can convert to SIR or SI USA does not really matter.
09-14-2003, 04:57 AM
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Re: no flaming ...b16 questions (ind3ciso)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ind3ciso »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the first gen b16 is going in my 90 Civic STD
I have the MPFI conversion in the mail as we speak so what other wiring do i have to do...</TD></TR></TABLE>
That depends on what conversion harness you are going with. If it's a complete DPFI to MPFI with the VTEC and knock sensors embedded then there will be little if any wiring to do.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">2**What kind of tranny should i get? [Cable(Y1, S1, J1)]</TD></TR></TABLE>
Any 90-93 cable B series tranny will work, although the closer geared JDM tranny's and/or 92-93 GSR YS1 tranny's would be best.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What kind of ECU? (PR3, PW0)</TD></TR></TABLE>
Either the OBD0 PR3 or PW0 will work.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">3**Im plaining on getting the hasport conversion for this swap will that give me all directions and instructions on wiring?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I never fooled with buying ready-made conversion harnesses or anything like that so I have no idea what comes with a conversion harness. I would say that they provide you with instructions, I would hope so at least after seeing the price of some of those
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">4**while out of the car what should i replace...i know i should replace the timing belt...and what else and what kind of car will all of this stuff come off of?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Anything that looks worn, gets worn or has the potential of getting worn because chances are it's worn
*** Also don't forget that since you have an STD, you will need to change the knuckles and hubs to the 88-91 DX/Si style so they will accept the new B series axles. The STD's are smaller and have a different amount of splines and will not work.
I have the MPFI conversion in the mail as we speak so what other wiring do i have to do...</TD></TR></TABLE>
That depends on what conversion harness you are going with. If it's a complete DPFI to MPFI with the VTEC and knock sensors embedded then there will be little if any wiring to do.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">2**What kind of tranny should i get? [Cable(Y1, S1, J1)]</TD></TR></TABLE>
Any 90-93 cable B series tranny will work, although the closer geared JDM tranny's and/or 92-93 GSR YS1 tranny's would be best.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What kind of ECU? (PR3, PW0)</TD></TR></TABLE>
Either the OBD0 PR3 or PW0 will work.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">3**Im plaining on getting the hasport conversion for this swap will that give me all directions and instructions on wiring?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I never fooled with buying ready-made conversion harnesses or anything like that so I have no idea what comes with a conversion harness. I would say that they provide you with instructions, I would hope so at least after seeing the price of some of those
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">4**while out of the car what should i replace...i know i should replace the timing belt...and what else and what kind of car will all of this stuff come off of?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Anything that looks worn, gets worn or has the potential of getting worn because chances are it's worn
*** Also don't forget that since you have an STD, you will need to change the knuckles and hubs to the 88-91 DX/Si style so they will accept the new B series axles. The STD's are smaller and have a different amount of splines and will not work.
09-14-2003, 07:59 AM
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Re: no flaming ...b16 questions (ind3ciso)
I would go with the S1 or J1 tranny. It has real close gear ratios, 4,500 RPM doing 80. But I would still recommend either one of those tranny's.
The pr3 ECU is you're best bet, more aftermarket support than the pw0, they are basically the same thing though.
You got good help on the replacement parts etc...
It looks like everything was covered but one thing you should keep in mind is to have an extra $300 or $400, something always comes up thats unexpected.
Modified by SiRWanabe at 12:15 PM 9/14/2003
The pr3 ECU is you're best bet, more aftermarket support than the pw0, they are basically the same thing though.
You got good help on the replacement parts etc...
It looks like everything was covered but one thing you should keep in mind is to have an extra $300 or $400, something always comes up thats unexpected.
Modified by SiRWanabe at 12:15 PM 9/14/2003
09-14-2003, 11:05 AM
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Re: no flaming ...b16 questions (VTECVillain)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTECVillain »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I never fooled with buying ready-made conversion harnesses or anything like that so I have no idea what comes with a conversion harness. I would say that they provide you with instructions, I would hope so at least after seeing the price of some of those
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if i buy my swap from hmotors online they throw one if for 60 $
I never fooled with buying ready-made conversion harnesses or anything like that so I have no idea what comes with a conversion harness. I would say that they provide you with instructions, I would hope so at least after seeing the price of some of those
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if i buy my swap from hmotors online they throw one if for 60 $
09-15-2003, 09:51 AM
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Re: no flaming ...b16 questions (ind3ciso)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ind3ciso »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
if i buy my swap from hmotors online they throw one if for 60 $</TD></TR></TABLE>
If I'm not mistaken they will not deal with wiring on the Std. model.
I can't help really you with the wiring part, the guy who put in my motor made a custom harness using a combination of the b16a harness and the stock harness.
if i buy my swap from hmotors online they throw one if for 60 $</TD></TR></TABLE>
If I'm not mistaken they will not deal with wiring on the Std. model.
I can't help really you with the wiring part, the guy who put in my motor made a custom harness using a combination of the b16a harness and the stock harness.
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