kozanatos

yes

the_wrench116

yes it just takes time and $,$$$$.$$. might need some fancy pipe work for the exhaust manifold and routing the boost pipes.

Jimster480

you can but its not really worth it :/

skunk2chris

I had an H22 EK hatch about 4 years ago and I hated it so much, that I sold the whole car. Back then, this swap wasn't as popular as it is today. I posted several threads trying to trade my H22A w/ LSD and several other bolt ons for a stock GSR or B16 motor but everyone thought it was fishy. I more than likely would have traded it for a stock single cam VTEC had the option arose at the time. So, rather than try to sell the motor and buy a new one, I just sold the whole car.
The oversteer is legit whether people wanna admit it or not. I've had several swapped cars in the past, and that was my least favorite. Like I said above, I'd rather have a super healthy single cam.

But no disrespect to H motor owners, it's just different strokes for different folks!

mrbh22

explain? i have a turbo h22 in a coupe. i just want to know your reasoning?

Jimster480

the FRM walls. They limit what you can do with it without some serious machining.

grumblemarc

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Do an H23.

Jimster480

wat?

grumblemarc

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H23s reported to be a far better candidate for boost than the H22 due to the closed deck design. If I didn't sell my old BB4 that would be in my Civic right now and getting boosted.

Jimster480

Pics of deck? do they have FRM Sleeves aswell?

grumblemarc

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Here's a pic. There is also a lot of controversy/misinformation about exactly WHICH of the H blocks were closed deck. As far as I knew is was the H23 only. The compression in the H23 were also a bit lower if I recall that correctly.

grumblemarc

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Pic in this thread.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...ht=closed+deck

Jimster480

thats very interesting. So how does the coolant get around the sleeves? Or it just doesnt??

accord2civic2prelude

my h22 block from 94 has closed deck with frm sleeves. and with it being closed deck and frm sleeved, it will do better with the added pressure. i have mine in my ej2 with a
t67 boosting 8lbs and it hasnt given me problems in a year or so.

kozanatos

Its all internal fan based cooling.

Jimster480

can you explain how that works?

sohctodohc

i would have to say that my buddy with a h22a jrsc civic hatch making 300 hp is pretty damn good, and im shooting for 400 hp with an hx35 and e85.

so i dont c how "h22's arent worth turboing" when 300whp is plenty of power for a dd car. and mind you he hasnt touched the engine once since it came off the dyno besides changing oil.

Jimster480

is 300WHP even safe on those POS sleeves?

mrbh22

the sleeves arent the problem on a h22. its the ringlands,they give up at about 10lbs ... at least for me they did. also the h22a1 is closed deck and i went the extra mile and had my block sleeved. so i no longer have to worry about all the "normal" problems. the frm wont allow you to just slap in forged pistons. thats the bigger problem with the sleeves.

Jimster480

ah. Well I know you have to have special pistons for FRM sleeves, but I thought that the Sleeves themselves gave out on top of that.

mrbh22

mahle used to make pistons for it and u could keep the frm sleeves. but i dont know if they make them anymore. i have never seen a frm sleeve on a h22a1 crack or anything but on my car, the ringlands on all four pistons were toast.

kozanatos

Sorry, that was a joke.
I was expecting a 'Haha shut up '
the coolant goes through those ports

Jimster480

oh lol i thought it sounded stupid as hell. But I dont know much about honda Closed Deck designs and Honda might have done some crazy **** with the block, which is why i asked you to explain it. So there is no cooling around the sleeves? or are their ports that wrap around the sleeves under the deck?

accord2civic2prelude

mahle still makes em. i am running them. i kinda like the frm sleeves...

the nsx has em also, and i rarely hear ppl talking bad about them. ppl only do, because i they only know d and b series and now k series. i wouldnt swap my h for nothing. torque is unmatched.

friend is running b18c1 making 246 at 4lbs...decent as hell, but at 4lbs, im at 273.

accord2civic2prelude

Jimster480...

there are ports on the sides between the block and cylinder walls. kinda hard to explain exactly how they work. but i think i have pics that i will load up today or tomorrow to show you and hopefully that will help.