slamed93si

i have a 93 si with a h22 and i have a gsr computer in it now what would be best computer for me i dont have money for hondata i was thinking a chiped p28 but im not sure what chip to use or what computer to use a frend told me to use a p13 but i cant find one any help is app. thanks

dc2h22

I have tried about every combo there is out there, and the best combo I have found over all (other than hondata) would be a p13 with the spoon chip. Unless you remove your secondaries the p28 is not going to be that great in that it will not activate your secondaries. This will probably be your most simple and cost effective solution to your question. If you want to get more technical in options I would be happy to discuss them.

hondaZvic

u guys use p13's on si's?

fastwanabe

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc2h22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have tried about every combo there is out there, and the best combo I have found over all (other than hondata) would be a p13 with the spoon chip. Unless you remove your secondaries the p28 is not going to be that great in that it will not activate your secondaries. This will probably be your most simple and cost effective solution to your question. If you want to get more technical in options I would be happy to discuss them. </TD></TR></TABLE>I'm interested in running a P28 or p72 with H22 base maps and Hondata. I run with secondaires open and would like to get rid of the CEL for the EGR... what do you think?

Newman

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That's what I'm running on my H22 hatchback.... custom H22A Type S program on a P28 Hondata S200. I also have a P28 chip that uses similar mappings on it, but still doesn't feel as good as the Hondata but getting close by tweaking a few things. When I get my car back from the paint shop, I'll do some more testing and post some stuff up..... possibly get some dyno time in.

slamed93si

ok so u say that a spoon chip will work fine when does vtec kick in and whats red line and where can i get the chip and how much? thanks

CHK4TIX

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc2h22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have tried about every combo there is out there, and the best combo I have found over all (other than hondata) would be a p13 with the spoon chip. Unless you remove your secondaries the p28 is not going to be that great in that it will not activate your secondaries. This will probably be your most simple and cost effective solution to your question. If you want to get more technical in options I would be happy to discuss them. </TD></TR></TABLE>

do you have any dyno information to prove this? If you just have a stock engine and you aren't planing on doing any major mods besides the standard I/H/E then the stock p13 would be just as productive. The spoon chip helps if you have cams installed, but other then that it just raises the rev limiter and dumps more fuel. But if you are using a JDM p13 you might want to get it chipped to remove the speed governor.

Jason kiDD

Most aftermarket chips not only dump more fuel but have more advanced timings as well.

I am using a stock p28 now. Yes stock and although I will eventually chip it back out again down low and vtec crossover is sweet, it just doesnt have the advanced timing up top like the Chip I have does..

Its really your call. P28's are fairy cheap and the EGR code the p13 gives off can be a pain ...

fizzbob7

and tuning is necessary no matter what you choose.....you can make good power with basically any setup, but tuning will need to be done........and there are programs that allow the IAB's to be functional with a p28 program...i personally hate the knock sensor that has to be used with the p13.....so pointless to have it......the p28 doesn't have that and it doesn't have an egr either.....and it's inexpensive...i sold my p13 and bought a chipped p28 and have yet to tune it, but it still runs better than it ever did with the p13.....i'm pretty sure i had a bad knock sensor, although a code never came up.......it would hesitate severely on the low cam, but now, it idles better, runs better, and gets better gas mileage....and i made money when it was all said and done...i'm 100% happy

hondaZvic

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DIY_Racing

Hey, i have a p13 here... I want to try a p72... you wanna swap?? trade? sell your p72???

Let me know.

slamed93si

im not going to sell the computer i just wanted to know what was the best set up for the h22 and i have ihe on the car now but i want to do a set of skunk2 cams but im not sure what stage i want and i dont want the car to run rich if i chip it cause i have a 99 si supercharged and it runs rich as **** and i hate the carbon that shoots all over the ground so i dont want that in this car