suncoastcustoms

Hello-

I have already installed the motor and it runs great, so I need no help there. But now that I have the H22 installed into the 93 Civic is having issues with the A/C and power steering. I have attached pics to help with my question.

A/C issue:
The a/c compressor is installed and the belt is on and compressor runs fine, but the thing circled in the picture is in the way, lol. I do not know where to move it to, or what. The lines run right near the alternator and I can not bend them enough to get them out of the way of the pulley. Any ideas from the EG crowd that has the AC and Power steering installed?


Power Steering Issue:
This is an easy one, but I was hoping someone had a tip. The belt is too close the frame rail and rides on the rail when installed. The engine needs to be slid over slightly to the passenger side to correct this. The mounts bolt holes are somewhat elongated, so they do have some play to facilitate this. Any suggestions on the easiest way to loosen the mounts and move the engine over? I dont want to remove the engine totally, because we all know that is a pain in the ***. Any ideas from the EG crowd would be appreciated too.


Thank you in advance.

Ddogz15

what mounts u using bro?

suncoastcustoms

I forgot to include that. Don't groan, they are Enjo mounts.

Adam.

Don't worry about slight rubbing on the power steering belt, mine does the same thing, if it breaks, that's only $15, but the belt isn't really something that has alot of stress on it, so slight rubbing won't be an issue for you.

suncoastcustoms

I will have to go back and look at the rubbing. It might be more than slight. I am not sure. I might go and see if I can find a 3 rib belt and put it on the three closest to the engine and eliminate that.

While we are on the PS thing, how did you go about extending the PS line to the new pump? How does that work? Can I do it myself or do I have to take it to someone to extend since its hydraulic based?

Adam.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by suncoastcustoms &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I will have to go back and look at the rubbing. It might be more than slight. I am not sure. I might go and see if I can find a 3 rib belt and put it on the three closest to the engine and eliminate that.

While we are on the PS thing, how did you go about extending the PS line to the new pump? How does that work? Can I do it myself or do I have to take it to someone to extend since its hydraulic based?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Extend which line?

The one that goes from the resevoir to the pump or the one that goes from the pump to the rack?

I just cut the one to fit from the resevoir to the pump, it's weird, but if you think about it, you can make it work.

As for the from the pump to the rack, I cut that one too, and my ps works, but it makes a horrible noise b/c there's a secondary inner, metal line that I cut with it and couldn't weld back together. I just ordered a new line from honda ($120) and we'll see if that fixes the problem.

suncoastcustoms

I am aware of the metal in lining on the PS line. I am refering to the line that runs from the rack to the pump. It is not long enough, and I think I also need to change the fitting to the prelude fitting and not the stock civic one. Once I cut off the stock civic fitting and have the prelude fitting with hose attached, i am not sure how to join them. I have heard about people welding them, but they are a spiral metal liner, not sure how you would braid that. I can get my hands on almost any honda part, so if there is a stock line that I can use that is longer, I will just go pull it off. If not I need to know if I have to weld those back together or if there is a coupler I can use to join them together. Thank you.

OTT

I thought you specialised in these swaps?



That main line that goes to the PAS pump just bolts straight up to the prelude PAS rack, It will be the same for the civic rack also.

The main line that you talk about is the black pipe (diff colour to others). It is the main feed for the pump. I dont know what the civic rack is like tho, I havent heard of other Hybrid people having this problem with pipe lenth (although alot just take pas out.)



The metal pipe is bendable, It the cradle your going to get the pipe from is in the prelude Id expect youll have difficulties unbolting its mounts.

It seems like those mounts make the engine sit further forward than the Hasport ones, maybe thats why its a bit close to the front left of the bay.

-OWN3D PAS- stripped for all its worth (took the good pas hydraulic lines and front sub sensor)

suncoastcustoms

I specialize in the engines, and information on the swaps, but I haven't run into this issue before. I went ahead and pulled the engine back out and I am rerouting the lines for the PS and AC lines. I need to locate a 97+ Prelude connector for the new PS pump, so that I can have the local hydraulic shop fuse the two together. Why they didnt use the same connector on all the preludes, I dont know why. I think I found someone in Michigan who has a connector to send to me.

So the bent tubing on the rack can be unbent to free up some length on the hose so it reaches. But then again it doesnt matter if I unbend the tubing, because if I am taking it to a hydraulic shop, they could just add more line in the middle.

Since I removed the engine, I will install it slightly more towards the passenger side to make clearance for the PS belt.

Hopefully this explains in more detail, what I was getting at. I think I have it worked out, but just need to locate a 97+ PS pump connector. Any ideas from anyone?

Adam.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by suncoastcustoms &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am aware of the metal in lining on the PS line. I am refering to the line that runs from the rack to the pump. It is not long enough, and I think I also need to change the fitting to the prelude fitting and not the stock civic one. Once I cut off the stock civic fitting and have the prelude fitting with hose attached, i am not sure how to join them. I have heard about people welding them, but they are a spiral metal liner, not sure how you would braid that. I can get my hands on almost any honda part, so if there is a stock line that I can use that is longer, I will just go pull it off. If not I need to know if I have to weld those back together or if there is a coupler I can use to join them together. Thank you.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, the stock civic fitting will not fit correctly onto the power steering pump. If you are taking this route and having a hydro company do all this work, maybe you should just try buying a completely new prelude line. Anyways, that's what I have (1994 Prelude line) done. It was $120, but I got it from bert-o on this board and he gets a big discount on such things. 800-741-2557

I think it would look cleaner if you just got an entirely new line. If you need know the length I can measure it today for you.

suncoastcustoms

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DarkKnight[DMD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">]

Yes, the stock civic fitting will not fit correctly onto the power steering pump. If you are taking this route and having a hydro company do all this work, maybe you should just try buying a completely new prelude line. Anyways, that's what I have (1994 Prelude line) done. It was $120, but I got it from bert-o on this board and he gets a big discount on such things. 800-741-2557

I think it would look cleaner if you just got an entirely new line. If you need know the length I can measure it today for you.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think that is what I am going to have to do. Except in my case I need the power steering line from a 97+ prelude, since I am using the smaller pump. You have the advantage of using the 92-96 pump from the H22 engine, I had to buy the smaller one to clear the hood. Thanks for your help.

93H22ACX

is that the civic a/c compressor that u used? Im doing the same thing too...no ps though....

was the a/c bracket from HCP? How was the install?

hondaZvic

ps? ac? what is that?