sol2nr

OK, i want to buy a b-series engine to take apart and totally rebuild. During the build-up I will be working with L&M Engines in Hatboro,PA to build custom camshafts for the engine during its several stages of rebuild. (i.e couple stages for stock b16a, couple for b16a w/ head work, b16a w/ headwork & built bottom w/ ^CR, ...w/ ITBs also, w/ ITBs and 150+shot...) The crankshats should be available within 3-4months.

I currently have a 2nd gen obd1 B16A in my obd1 del sol.

I want to know exactly what the downsides would be to putting in the 1st gen obd0 b16a as opposed to getting a 2nd gen obd1 and it going in just like the current one is there now.

From my understanding, to use the 1st gen b16a in my car now, i'd need a dizzy for it, injectors, obd-0 computer (or conversion), alternator...anything else?

If we use AEM EMS to run the new built engine (obd0) will i have any troubles when i put it in my obd-1 car?

are there any "tuning flaws" that make the 1st gen inferior to the 2nd gen? for example, i hear the 1st gen doesn't have a crankshaft position sensor?- does the EMS tune off of that?

thanks for any info.
-ROB

Turbogixxer

why do you want to run obd zero on your obd one car?
just convert the motor to obd one
it is not hard at all

sol2nr

i don't want to but if i can pick up an obd0 for much cheaper, i just might. there will be no difference internally if i start w/ a 1st or 2nd gen b16a since it'll be totally rebuilt. but what about wiring/sensor issues?

can you elaborate?

Turbogixxer

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sol2nr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i don't want to but if i can pick up an obd0 for much cheaper, i just might. there will be no difference internally if i start w/ a 1st or 2nd gen b16a since it'll be totally rebuilt
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Yes but
You have a obd one car
So if you wanted to run a obd zero ecu | dizzy | oxygen sensor
you would have to convert your harness to make them work right
It is easy and better to convert the motor to obd one by replacing the dizzy | injectors | rewiring the ECT sensor with obd one or two parts

sol2nr

if the engine will be controlled by AEM EMS, do i still have to do those things?

sol2nr

so if i get AEM EMS, and put an obd1 o2 sensor on the obd0 engine, and obd1 dizzy on it, and convert the harness.... all will be normal?

Turbogixxer

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sol2nr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so if i get AEM EMS, and put an obd1 o2 sensor on the obd0 engine, and obd1 dizzy on it, and convert the harness.... all will be normal?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes but
To run the obd one or two oxygen sensor
it is easier to get a obd one or two header


do not forget to convert the ECT sensor or your cooling fans will not work

sol2nr

i have an obd1 header....and what exactly has to be done to the ECT sensor. can't i just use the gen2 water neck w/ the sensor location there. or is there some wiring i have to adjust?

Turbogixxer

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sol2nr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have an obd1 header....and what exactly has to be done to the ECT sensor. can't i just use the gen2 water neck w/ the sensor location there. or is there some wiring i have to adjust?</TD></TR></TABLE>

you hit the nail right on the head
thats what you have to do or use the obd zero ECT sensor that is on the block