SIR2Hatch

I have a B16B in a 92 Hatch, my axles are binding up really bad when i turn. I have tried 99-00 civic B16 Axles w/ ABS, which are exactly the same as every other B series axle from what I gathered. For some reason it does not work with the B16B. I've asked in another thread and got no response, I've searched and found nothing that helps me out. Everything I've found and read about says any B-series axle will work, which is BS, they don't work at all. Please, please help, it sucks when your car struggles to turn simple corners. Does anyone know anything about this?

Civicfanatic_09

94-01 Integra axles without abs is what I use, and have had no trouble. Where are you getting the axles?

SIR2Hatch

I'm a tech, so i get them through my shop. you think i should try without ABS then? I have the ones with abs because i read online somewhere to get specifically the ones with ABS.

Civicfanatic_09

I never used them with abs, because my civic dosent have abs. where does your shop get there axles

tiptopEBPcivc

i have a 99 civic si with the b16a2 and si's dont come with ABS, b/c if they did i wouldnt have the car

300whpej

i dont know of anyone running abs axles with b-series swapped ef's/eg's/ek's including myself. im using a set from a 94 gsr

BrandonR

Why would you not want ABS?

300whpej

abs is only used under severe breaking, and if you need to brake that hard, abs really isnt going to help out too much. a good set of pads/rotors/fluid flush and you should have all the stopping power needed to stop a honda

saltybeagle

WOW, you've been using ABS axles this whole time on a non ABS car? That might be your problem all together.

SIR2Hatch

The problem is that the axles are to long. I put it up on the alignment rack today and there is absolutely no play in the center shaft of the axle. Is there a difference in length between the abs axle and the non-abs? I thought the only difference would be the exciter ring for the ABS. And remember this isn't your regular B16, I've got the CTR B16b with the S4c LSD trans if that even matters? I had a B16A in it previously and these axle are the exact same length as my old ones. I thought that they would work just the same. Maybe the exciter ring won't allow the axle to go all the way through my hub correctly causing it bind? I'm getting non-ABS axles on Monday, sending these ones back as defective. We'll see if that solves the problems.

builthatch

afaik the difference is only the ring. ABS vs. non, i don't think that is your issue at all. i might be wrong, but i'm pretty sure i'm not.

i don't think i saw the answer about the source for the axles you are using. i know you said you get them through your shop but that doesn't mean anything to us ; )

for what it is worth, check this thread so you can see how inconsistent axles can be - https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/consistent-rotational-knocking-noise-when-turning-left-right-while-gas-2680462/

if you need new axles, spend the cash on raxles!

good luck y0! you'll figure this one out.

bryse68

you probably have the wrong half shaft(intermediate shaft). you most likely have the half shaft from an older b16 which you need to use 88-89 integra axle. all b-series axles are the same length regardless of abs or not. they all fit the same. however if you use the POS halfshaft with any bseries axle it will cause binding. in short. get a different half shaft.

SIR2Hatch

Ok so i got more axles i tried them out at work, the abs ring is part of the outer joint, it also has a larger diameter then the non abs one. The larger diameter won't allow the axle to go all the way through my hub, in fact it was stuck half way in the pas side hub, had to use an air hammer to get it out. The other side wasn't wedged inside rather it was just hitting the seal for the hub, it definitely wasn't seated inside the hub all the way. So i ordered some b16a non-abs axles, they fit the outer hub but the splines that go in the transmission are way smaller. Tried swapping inner joints, but they had different size bearings so they didn't swap over. I'm thinking i might have to get 99-00 civic knuckles, if they even swap over. I'm running out of options here, does anyone have an ek9 motor/trans in an eg? what axles are you using?

my intermediate shaft came with the motor, so its a 99 b16b. that seams to be identical to my 94 b16a, they both worked and my axles bound up with both of them. i currently have the 99 B16b intermediate shaft installed.

perseverance

def seems like ur using the wrong intermediate shaft. I've used LS axles, GSR axles and SI axles and never had any issues. only other thing i can think of is that you're running the wrong mounts/brackets and ur motor is in a bad angle

kyden

abs/non-abs axles it doesn't matter, the ring doesn't interfere. as long as they're b series (non-da) axles you're good to go. you don't need 99-00 knuckles.

can't be using the wrong intermediate shaft, cause if you did, the axle would never fit,so thats not the problem.

if you ordered the axles from napa for a 99-00 si, it's definitely going to be wrong. they don't have a separate listing for ex and si. at least they didn't a few years ago when i got an axle from them.

i would just get another set of axles. though i have a feeling your motor is not sitting right in the bay.

bryse68

the axles will fit on EG/DC/Ek with the wrong intermediate shaft. it wont fit on EF/DA but it will bind on the others. get a GSR intermediate shaft with GSR axles and it will solve ur problems. I'm 100% its the intermediate shaft. this problem happened to me on 2 cars. A Eg hatch and a CRX.