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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 07:39 PM
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question about turbo's.... heard lots about the inline pro kit for the s. question is are there any downsides to basically creating a kit yourself with parts. seems to by looking off the inline pro kit all a turbo kit mainly is the exhaust manifold, the turbo, blow off valve, and intercoolrer. then you have all the pumping and connecting mechanisms, down pipes and charge pipes. why should i purchase a kit versus buying the parts seperate? or should i buy the parts separate? i understand how a turbo works but i don't know a whole lot about products or companies themselves. enlightment would be helpful!
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 07:40 PM
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one other question... i love the sound of blow off valves, any recommendations of blow off valves... or how does the one that comes with the inline turbo kit sound when it releases the pressure?
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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First you will have to find someone that is going to break a kit up and sell you what you want. Then you will spend alot of time getting the pices together. BUT the best part would be me watching you 1, pay someone to make you pipes to fit the mani. and turbo you chose. 2. watching you try to buy 90 and 45drg bends and you try to put them together. Its so much better to get a kit that is made for a car. Remember, our cars are not Civics, there are not that many turbo parts for them
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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Get a TurboSmart
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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a turbosmart kit? link for that? the inline pro kit i guess comes with a couple turbosmart parts but the charger itself isn't a turbosmart right?
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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MD W00t W00t...

Tri-State area W00t W00t
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 08:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NewS2K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">question about turbo's.... heard lots about the inline pro kit for the s. question is are there any downsides to basically creating a kit yourself with parts. seems to by looking off the inline pro kit all a turbo kit mainly is the exhaust manifold, the turbo, blow off valve, and intercoolrer. then you have all the pumping and connecting mechanisms, down pipes and charge pipes. why should i purchase a kit versus buying the parts seperate? or should i buy the parts separate? i understand how a turbo works but i don't know a whole lot about products or companies themselves. enlightment would be helpful!</TD></TR></TABLE>

best thing to do is buy a kit... and then once you got the kit you upgrade from that.... keep in mind the inline kit also comes with a 3mm head gasket which no other kit on the market comes with...
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 08:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VtecBlissS2k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">MD W00t W00t...

Tri-State area W00t W00t </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah... dc metro area be representin hard .. hehehe.. .
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 03s2kblue &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

yeah... dc metro area be representin hard .. hehehe.. .</TD></TR></TABLE>

isn't tristate...PA, NJ, NY?
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 10:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nishant &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

isn't tristate...PA, NJ, NY?</TD></TR></TABLE>

we are also called tristate for some odd reason hahahaha......

i call it the DC METRO AREA
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 11:20 PM
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I'm collecting parts for my set-up right now. My problem is I can't seem to keep ahold of big chunks of money because I spend it too quick. So what I do when I want something big is buy it in parts. That way I only spend a few hundred at a time. With a turbo kit I think its the best way to go if you've never boosted a car because it gives you time to learn more about the parts you're getting and how they will work together. And alot of times you can buy parts seperatly and pay less than you would for a kit especially if you get stuff from guys here.

If you choose to piece together your own kit i highly recommend this link. http://www.beesandgoats.com/bo....html

Good luck and dont be impatient like me.
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 05:21 AM
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hey dude ... I live in MD and my INLINE PRO kit is for sale....the kit is awsome.. and like blkturbos2k said turbosmart stuff is the ****.... my kit even come with a 3inch turbo back exhaust the only thing my kit dose not come with is the 3mm headgasket....And if you buy my kit our shop will hook you up on the install...if you want to see my car or go for a ride just let me know and if you want to know what it looks like sounds like or if its fast ask a few ppl on this site or ask arround the mid-a section of s2ki.com here are a few pics https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1119441
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 05:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blkturbos2k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Remember, our cars are not Civics, there are not that many turbo parts for them</TD></TR></TABLE>

I hate when people say this cause its not true. There's nothing about a turbo part that makes it car specific. A turbo kit consists of 90% universal parts (turbo, wastegate, BOV, intercooler). The only thing that is car specific is the manifold. Also if you have access to a welder chargepipes and the downpipe are really easy to build.

However for this guy I think a prebuilt kit is the way to go
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 07:02 AM
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boosted if i had cash right now i would definitely take you up on teh offer. problem is... I HAVEN'T EVEN BOUGHT THE CAR YET. i've been posting on the forum for about a week now just gathering information. i probably won't even drop a turbo in there for another year after getting the car. i just want to get my facts straights so i don't look like an *******. as per the ride and seeing your car, i'd like to see it anyways if it's not too much trouble for you
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 07:24 AM
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I say that because only a few I/C will fit. Then it depends on the Main. you use. You can only run so many turbos for what mani you have. Now the pipes, I know I dont want a steel charge pipe. If you can weld Alum then go fo it but who is going to roll the end of the tube so the hose wont fall off at high boost?
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blkturbos2k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I say that because only a few I/C will fit. Then it depends on the Main. you use. You can only run so many turbos for what mani you have. Now the pipes, I know I dont want a steel charge pipe. If you can weld Alum then go fo it but who is going to roll the end of the tube so the hose wont fall off at high boost?</TD></TR></TABLE>


Basically all the turbos your going to want to run on an S2K are T3 flanged turbo unless for some reason you want to put a t28 on or a T4 which are both not good for an S. Also the intercoolers, well in reality you can make any intercooler fit it just depends on how much you want to cut. Also all the companies that sell intercoolers have many many different sizes so all you have to do is measure how much space you have than order an intercooler to that spec.

Steel charge pipes are less prone to heat soak but are heavier. A bead roller be used for the ends of the pipes. Or if you don't have access to a bead roller than just use straps across the couplings which will hold better than just bead rolled pipes.

My point is that saying "There's not that many turbo parts for an S cause its not a Civic" is just not true at all. You can put a turbo on any car very easily and it just gets to me when people 'they don't make turbo parts for my car."
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Whitey. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I hate when people say this cause its not true. There's nothing about a turbo part that makes it car specific. A turbo kit consists of 90% universal parts (turbo, wastegate, BOV, intercooler). The only thing that is car specific is the manifold. Also if you have access to a welder chargepipes and the downpipe are really easy to build.

However for this guy I think a prebuilt kit is the way to go</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yep yep. Thats why you can turbo charge pretty much anything and thats why there are so many different turbo kits fr each car. They are all universal parts put together in different arrangments to fit different applications.
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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I understand all of this but it will take you more time and money to do it yourself then to get a kit. How many people that you know have a bead roller?
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 05:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blkturbos2k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I understand all of this but it will take you more time and money to do it yourself then to get a kit. How many people that you know have a bead roller?</TD></TR></TABLE>


But you'll also take more pride in knowing that you built your own turbo kit instead of just buying something out of a box. Also you learn more about the workings of a turbo when you piece a kit together yourself. The bead roller isn't that important. You can turn up the wirespeed on the welder and run a bead around the end of the pipes. Piecing a kit together usually turns out cheaper than buying a kit cause your not paying for the useless fuel management that usually comes with a kit. Also when piecing a kit together you can customize the kit to exactly what you want.


Garrett GT35R: $1300
Intercooler: $600
44mm wastegate: $330
BOV: $200
AEM EMS: $1300
1000cc injectors: $300
Manifold: $600
oil lines: $100
piping and downpipe: $400


Total: $5130


This is with a little overestimating on prices but basically its the same price as the inline pro except it includes real fuel management, a better turbo and a 44mm wastegate instead of a 38mm.
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Whitey. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


But you'll also take more pride in knowing that you built your own turbo kit instead of just buying something out of a box. Also you learn more about the workings of a turbo when you piece a kit together yourself. The bead roller isn't that important. You can turn up the wirespeed on the welder and run a bead around the end of the pipes. Piecing a kit together usually turns out cheaper than buying a kit cause your not paying for the useless fuel management that usually comes with a kit. Also when piecing a kit together you can customize the kit to exactly what you want.


Garrett GT35R: $1300
Intercooler: $600
44mm wastegate: $330
BOV: $200
AEM EMS: $1300
1000cc injectors: $300
Manifold: $600
oil lines: $100
piping and downpipe: $400


Total: $5130


This is with a little overestimating on prices but basically its the same price as the inline pro except it includes real fuel management, a better turbo and a 44mm wastegate instead of a 38mm.
</TD></TR></TABLE>so for a few more$$$ you can have a kit that have the #'s .... but I cant talk my new set up is all custom!!! but oh well I did the kit 1st and need more power so we will see!!
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