s2000 or lancer evo 8?
08-01-2003, 08:20 AM
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Re: S2000 vs. Evo VIII (oos2kfan)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oos2kfan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Let me find someone with an EVO and then I'll let you know who wins...until then this debate is basically pointless.</TD></TR></TABLE>
hmmm...lets seee ...i've seen it first hand ....other people have seen it first hand ....
yet you still dont beleive because you havent been beat by one yourself .....
i bet you wouldnt even have the guts to drive one on a REAL track ....
if i had to choose ....i'd rather own a S2000 on the street ....its a 9k Redline ....Roadster/Rollercoaster .......best bang for your buck chick magnet ....
but i STILL KNOW which one is faster on a road course ...or 1/4 mile
Modified by tsunami_zc at 1:34 PM 8/1/2003
hmmm...lets seee ...i've seen it first hand ....other people have seen it first hand ....
yet you still dont beleive because you havent been beat by one yourself .....
i bet you wouldnt even have the guts to drive one on a REAL track ....
if i had to choose ....i'd rather own a S2000 on the street ....its a 9k Redline ....Roadster/Rollercoaster .......best bang for your buck chick magnet ....
but i STILL KNOW which one is faster on a road course ...or 1/4 mile
Modified by tsunami_zc at 1:34 PM 8/1/2003
08-01-2003, 09:57 AM
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Re: S2000 vs. Evo VIII (tsunami_zc)
thought you said who care's about the 1/4? and the evo will not beat the s2k in the 1/4 both run around 13.6-13.8....depending on driver.
as far as the track? who knows.....but i or you prollly never go to the track i dont just want a track only car.....but yes the evo is a excelently manufactured car....
its all opinion...but i would deff go with the s2k....
as far as the track? who knows.....but i or you prollly never go to the track i dont just want a track only car.....but yes the evo is a excelently manufactured car....
its all opinion...but i would deff go with the s2k....
08-01-2003, 10:33 AM
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Re: S2000 vs. Evo VIII (99EKhatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99EKhatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thought you said who care's about the 1/4? and the evo will not beat the s2k in the 1/4 both run around 13.6-13.8....depending on driver.
as far as the track? who knows.....but i or you prollly never go to the track i dont just want a track only car.....but yes the evo is a excelently manufactured car....
its all opinion...but i would deff go with the s2k....
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i dont care ......
as far as the track? who knows.....but i or you prollly never go to the track i dont just want a track only car.....but yes the evo is a excelently manufactured car....
its all opinion...but i would deff go with the s2k....
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i dont care ......
08-01-2003, 10:35 AM
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Re: S2000 vs. Evo VIII (99EKhatch)
Don't you think that 77replies (78 with mine) is enough! EVO8 is pretty good, but S2000 is other thing. I prefer a 240hp engine than 130hp. Also a Tommi Makinen edition is better than the EVO8. EVO VIII has softer sunspesion, weights more and is slower. A Tommi edition is WRC like but I don't think you can find one. There's my list:
1st .............
2nd NSX
3rd S2000
4th IMPREZA 22B / STI
5th TM edition
6th EVO VIII
7th Supra.....
1st .............
2nd NSX
3rd S2000
4th IMPREZA 22B / STI
5th TM edition
6th EVO VIII
7th Supra.....
08-01-2003, 12:55 PM
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Re: S2000 vs. Evo VIII (99EKhatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99EKhatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">130hp? the evo doesnt have 130hp....try more like 300hp</TD></TR></TABLE>
278 to be exact .....
278 to be exact .....
08-01-2003, 01:39 PM
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Re: S2000 vs. Evo VIII (tsunami_zc)
went from this:
to this:
and finally:
and i rate them like this in order of enjoyment:
1) evo
2) integra
3) s2000
its not that the s2000 isnt fun.. but the s2000 is too picky.. not only do you feel like you have to keep it spotless all the time.. but the s2000 is nearly impossible to drive in the rain, unless you want to hydroplane every 5 feet.. plus its not practical unless you have a separate vehicle..
and to whoever said that the evo VIII has softer supension than the vii is wrong, they have the exact same suspension.. i just removed mine off my evo8 and replaced them with tein suspension made for the evo7.. perfect fit.. same goes for my b&m short shifter, my hks exhaust, and my hks ssqv bov... i obviously am a honda lover but the evo far surpases any honda i have ever driven.. yes.. you could make honda outhandle an evo im sure with alot of work and you can make a honda beat a stock evo in the quarter mile, and the evo may not have the best interior... but... id take the stock evo anyday of the week.
.chris
to this:
and finally:
and i rate them like this in order of enjoyment:
1) evo
2) integra
3) s2000
its not that the s2000 isnt fun.. but the s2000 is too picky.. not only do you feel like you have to keep it spotless all the time.. but the s2000 is nearly impossible to drive in the rain, unless you want to hydroplane every 5 feet.. plus its not practical unless you have a separate vehicle..
and to whoever said that the evo VIII has softer supension than the vii is wrong, they have the exact same suspension.. i just removed mine off my evo8 and replaced them with tein suspension made for the evo7.. perfect fit.. same goes for my b&m short shifter, my hks exhaust, and my hks ssqv bov... i obviously am a honda lover but the evo far surpases any honda i have ever driven.. yes.. you could make honda outhandle an evo im sure with alot of work and you can make a honda beat a stock evo in the quarter mile, and the evo may not have the best interior... but... id take the stock evo anyday of the week.
.chris
08-01-2003, 09:20 PM
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Re: S2000 vs. Evo VIII (99EKhatch)
The real engine power is measured without turbos or superchargers. And the EVO's engine without the charger is about 130-160hp. For example the F20C (240hp) is better than a B16A turbo (300hp). I learn that from university. (I couldn't believe it.)
I didn't say I don't like the EVO8 but it's like my mom's car. The EVO6 or a TM edition is better for me. Not only for the large fenders and wing, but is very quicker than the EVO8. I know people having having all the Evolution series from 5 to 8, and they were a little bit dissapointed, with 8. I've read an article in the JAPANESE perf. magazine. Could you please post some more pics?
I didn't say I don't like the EVO8 but it's like my mom's car. The EVO6 or a TM edition is better for me. Not only for the large fenders and wing, but is very quicker than the EVO8. I know people having having all the Evolution series from 5 to 8, and they were a little bit dissapointed, with 8. I've read an article in the JAPANESE perf. magazine. Could you please post some more pics?
08-02-2003, 12:05 AM
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Re: S2000 vs. Evo VIII (BafMan)
the evo8 comes with wide fenders and body panels... it is more aero dynamic than any of the earlier series evo's.. technology is comming and bringing changes as the car develops and thats why they call it the lancer evolution. i think mitsu took some thought into this before development, and i dont think that they created the evo8 to be slower than the earlier evolution's. If you would rather your mom drive this than thats fine, but my mom would much rather the drop top sports car with leather interior, maybe your mom likes the race bread all wheel drive rally car feel better.. and also, 300 hp is 300 hp.. turbo/supercharger/or NA.. the power bands may be different but Horse Power is the same unit of measure in all categories... and it doesnt change. and if you took the turbo off the evo8.. yes it would read more like 150 hp.. but thats because it wasnt made to run NA.. it was given LOW COMPRESSION not to mention the cast iron block and all forged internals IN ORDER to run high PSI... and obviously the s2000 was made for natural asperation and VTEC (which if you took away you would see a very signifcant drop in hp numbers), with its high compression, high reving engine.. the two engines were made for two different things.. and of course people are going to complain about new designs... but if we all look back thats the same thing that happened with the RSX taking place of the integra... we all have our opinions.. but if your going to bring up the NON-FI hp numbers of the evo.. then maybe you should stop and think about the bigger picture.. of course we could take the s2000 and strip it of vtec and 11.0 compression.. and see what we got then.. but they are two totally different engines made for two totally different classes of drivers. 
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Re: S2000 vs. Evo VIII (JDMchris)
I totally agree with you. But we can't compare a N/A engine and a turbocharged. Also I didn't claim that EVO8 is slower than EVO6. EVO8 owners claim that. Japanese manufacturers are the best for me so I can't compare the S2k with the Evo. I agree that the F20C is built to be N/A, but I learnt at the Uni. that we must measure engine HP without external parts. I know that EVOVIII has lower air resistance and has beed tested for months in huge tunnels. My best friend is aFord escort owner with a turbocharged Cosworth engine and he claims that his car is faster. Ok, maibe it's faster but it's more difficult to build a RWD car with a N/A engine than a 4WD with turbo. A company that produces lot's of hp @ few cc is the best for me. That's why I hate Mustangs, Fords, Audis, VW's, Chevy's etc. In order to produce 300hp they use 3L engines! And for 500hp 8L engines. If HONDA decided to built a 5L V8 engine it would be around 800hp @ 12.000rpms. But there's HP limit in Japan. (around 280 I think).
Also HONDA makes cars for love, and tradition, not for marketing. That's why HONDA is the last in sales. Only small civics, jazz, and vans are used for marketing. These cars (Mustangs, Fords, Audis, VW's, Chevy's ) offer a huge variety of controls, and are extremely easy to drive, and when you drive you feel like sitting in you sofa playing PS2. A HONDA, a SUBARU, and the EVO is offered for real driving thrills!
Also HONDA makes cars for love, and tradition, not for marketing. That's why HONDA is the last in sales. Only small civics, jazz, and vans are used for marketing. These cars (Mustangs, Fords, Audis, VW's, Chevy's ) offer a huge variety of controls, and are extremely easy to drive, and when you drive you feel like sitting in you sofa playing PS2. A HONDA, a SUBARU, and the EVO is offered for real driving thrills!
08-03-2003, 12:13 PM
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Re: S2000 vs. Evo VIII (BafMan)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BafMan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The real engine power is measured without turbos or superchargers. And the EVO's engine without the charger is about 130-160hp. For example the F20C (240hp) is better than a B16A turbo (300hp). I learn that from university. (I couldn't believe it.)
I didn't say I don't like the EVO8 but it's like my mom's car. The EVO6 or a TM edition is better for me. Not only for the large fenders and wing, but is very quicker than the EVO8. I know people having having all the Evolution series from 5 to 8, and they were a little bit dissapointed, with 8. I've read an article in the JAPANESE perf. magazine. Could you please post some more pics? </TD></TR></TABLE>
so on stock boost the evo gains 130-170hp
? wow thats a good turbo........
I didn't say I don't like the EVO8 but it's like my mom's car. The EVO6 or a TM edition is better for me. Not only for the large fenders and wing, but is very quicker than the EVO8. I know people having having all the Evolution series from 5 to 8, and they were a little bit dissapointed, with 8. I've read an article in the JAPANESE perf. magazine. Could you please post some more pics?
</TD></TR></TABLE>so on stock boost the evo gains 130-170hp
? wow thats a good turbo........
08-04-2003, 06:29 AM
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Re: S2000 vs. Evo VIII (BafMan)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BafMan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I totally agree with you. But we can't compare a N/A engine and a turbocharged. Also I didn't claim that EVO8 is slower than EVO6. EVO8 owners claim that. Japanese manufacturers are the best for me so I can't compare the S2k with the Evo. I agree that the F20C is built to be N/A, but I learnt at the Uni. that we must measure engine HP without external parts. I know that EVOVIII has lower air resistance and has beed tested for months in huge tunnels. My best friend is aFord escort owner with a turbocharged Cosworth engine and he claims that his car is faster. Ok, maibe it's faster but it's more difficult to build a RWD car with a N/A engine than a 4WD with turbo. A company that produces lot's of hp @ few cc is the best for me. That's why I hate Mustangs, Fords, Audis, VW's, Chevy's etc. In order to produce 300hp they use 3L engines! And for 500hp 8L engines. If HONDA decided to built a 5L V8 engine it would be around 800hp @ 12.000rpms. But there's HP limit in Japan. (around 280 I think).
Also HONDA makes cars for love, and tradition, not for marketing. That's why HONDA is the last in sales. Only small civics, jazz, and vans are used for marketing. These cars (Mustangs, Fords, Audis, VW's, Chevy's ) offer a huge variety of controls, and are extremely easy to drive, and when you drive you feel like sitting in you sofa playing PS2. A HONDA, a SUBARU, and the EVO is offered for real driving thrills! </TD></TR></TABLE>
ok fine then ....if thats what you've learned at your so called "universety"
you want to find the power of the engine without periphials , or anything that aids the engine in power ...
then why not test a N/a F20c without the aid of Vtec .....
Also HONDA makes cars for love, and tradition, not for marketing. That's why HONDA is the last in sales. Only small civics, jazz, and vans are used for marketing. These cars (Mustangs, Fords, Audis, VW's, Chevy's ) offer a huge variety of controls, and are extremely easy to drive, and when you drive you feel like sitting in you sofa playing PS2. A HONDA, a SUBARU, and the EVO is offered for real driving thrills!
</TD></TR></TABLE>ok fine then ....if thats what you've learned at your so called "universety"
you want to find the power of the engine without periphials , or anything that aids the engine in power ...
then why not test a N/a F20c without the aid of Vtec .....
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Re: S2000 vs. Evo VIII (tsunami_zc)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tsunami_zc »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
ok fine then ....if thats what you've learned at your so called "universety"
you want to find the power of the engine without periphials , or anything that aids the engine in power ...
then why not test a N/a F20c without the aid of Vtec .....
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You didn't caught me right. Maybe my English again. In the University we are working on Chemistry these days. (now we are on holidays) We haven't started automotive engineering yet. I'm only in the first year, and I have 3 more years. Not to mention another 15 months for master.
Of course If we want to learn how much power a turbocharged engine produces we will test it normally. But if we want to compare different category cars, such as turbocharged EVO (4WD) Vs N/A S2000 (FR) it is a bit "unfair".
Also if we have to compare a Ferrari, and a Civic, we use hp/kg, so Civic is not so far from Ferrari. Of course these aren't official , I just learnt them there.
Another way to understand that shiti is this:
The engine is the block/head/intake/exhaust/etc. The charger or Nitrous, or anything else is not a part of an engine. That's why we use to say turbocharged engine.
Of course Variable Valve timing, rotory valves, rotors, VVF, Desmo valves ,DVS, etc is part of an engine. So to you 
ok fine then ....if thats what you've learned at your so called "universety"
you want to find the power of the engine without periphials , or anything that aids the engine in power ...
then why not test a N/a F20c without the aid of Vtec .....
</TD></TR></TABLE>You didn't caught me right. Maybe my English again. In the University we are working on Chemistry these days. (now we are on holidays) We haven't started automotive engineering yet. I'm only in the first year, and I have 3 more years. Not to mention another 15 months for master.
Of course If we want to learn how much power a turbocharged engine produces we will test it normally. But if we want to compare different category cars, such as turbocharged EVO (4WD) Vs N/A S2000 (FR) it is a bit "unfair".
Also if we have to compare a Ferrari, and a Civic, we use hp/kg, so Civic is not so far from Ferrari. Of course these aren't official , I just learnt them there.
Another way to understand that shiti is this:
The engine is the block/head/intake/exhaust/etc. The charger or Nitrous, or anything else is not a part of an engine. That's why we use to say turbocharged engine.
Of course Variable Valve timing, rotory valves, rotors, VVF, Desmo valves ,DVS, etc is part of an engine. So
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08-04-2003, 07:38 AM
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Re: S2000 vs. Evo VIII (tsunami_zc)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tsunami_zc »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
then why not test a N/a F20c without the aid of Vtec .....
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VTEC is a design implemented in the engine itself. you cannot compare VTEC to something like a turbo or supercharger where you can just slap it on and call it a day...
then why not test a N/a F20c without the aid of Vtec .....
</TD></TR></TABLE>VTEC is a design implemented in the engine itself. you cannot compare VTEC to something like a turbo or supercharger where you can just slap it on and call it a day...
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Re: S2000 vs. Evo VIII (Razor)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Razor »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
VTEC is a design implemented in the engine itself. you cannot compare VTEC to something like a turbo or supercharger where you can just slap it on and call it a day...</TD></TR></TABLE>
well you dont just slap it on a call it a day ....
the 4G63 in design built for a turbo .....low compresion ....closed deck ..etc ...
if you take away the turbo .....because you believe its simply a periphial ...then you taking away the implementation that the engine was intended for .....
even though comparing them is hard .....because its like apples & oranges ....
the guy who made this thread is asking that ...to compare apples vs oranges ...
they both have their highlights .....i'm just saying the Evo is a faster car ..
VTEC is a design implemented in the engine itself. you cannot compare VTEC to something like a turbo or supercharger where you can just slap it on and call it a day...</TD></TR></TABLE>
well you dont just slap it on a call it a day ....
the 4G63 in design built for a turbo .....low compresion ....closed deck ..etc ...
if you take away the turbo .....because you believe its simply a periphial ...then you taking away the implementation that the engine was intended for .....
even though comparing them is hard .....because its like apples & oranges ....
the guy who made this thread is asking that ...to compare apples vs oranges ...
they both have their highlights .....i'm just saying the Evo is a faster car ..
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Re: S2000 vs. Evo VIII (tsunami_zc)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tsunami_zc »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you take away the turbo .....because you believe its simply a periphial ...then you taking away the implementation that the engine was intended for .....</TD></TR></TABLE>
Since it isn't sports, I agree with you.
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even though comparing them is hard .....because its like apples & oranges ....
the guy who made this thread is asking that ...to compare apples vs oranges ...
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Yep.
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they both have their highlights .....i'm just saying the Evo is a faster car ..</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think some S2k owners/fans are taking it too defensively. Even though you have said the S2k is a great car (not in those words, but yeah), people still continue to argue. SPEED doesn't necessarily define a car.
Can you say a Evo is better than a Escalade just because it's faster? No. But everyone's going to have different opinions on what they like more...
The Evo is a faster car. Better car? Well, that's subjective. The S2k IMO is a much better car in many other ways. Again, apples and oranges.
2 seater vs 4 door
N/A vs. Turbo
Honda reliability vs Not sure with the Evo's reliability yet, only time will tell?
S2k's looks vs Evo's (subjective, but the S2k does have many more luxuries, I think the interior proves a point). For the record, I think stock Evos are UGLY. JMO
Convertible vs 4 door
etc. etc. etc.
Since it isn't sports, I agree with you.
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even though comparing them is hard .....because its like apples & oranges ....
the guy who made this thread is asking that ...to compare apples vs oranges ...
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yep.
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they both have their highlights .....i'm just saying the Evo is a faster car ..</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think some S2k owners/fans are taking it too defensively. Even though you have said the S2k is a great car (not in those words, but yeah), people still continue to argue. SPEED doesn't necessarily define a car.
Can you say a Evo is better than a Escalade just because it's faster? No. But everyone's going to have different opinions on what they like more...
The Evo is a faster car. Better car? Well, that's subjective. The S2k IMO is a much better car in many other ways. Again, apples and oranges.
2 seater vs 4 door
N/A vs. Turbo
Honda reliability vs Not sure with the Evo's reliability yet, only time will tell?
S2k's looks vs Evo's (subjective, but the S2k does have many more luxuries, I think the interior proves a point). For the record, I think stock Evos are UGLY. JMO
Convertible vs 4 door
etc. etc. etc.
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Re: S2000 vs. Evo VIII (JMS JT)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JMS JT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Since it isn't sports, I agree with you.
Yep.
I think some S2k owners/fans are taking it too defensively. Even though you have said the S2k is a great car (not in those words, but yeah), people still continue to argue. SPEED doesn't necessarily define a car.
Can you say a Evo is better than a Escalade just because it's faster? No. But everyone's going to have different opinions on what they like more...
The Evo is a faster car. Better car? Well, that's subjective. The S2k IMO is a much better car in many other ways. Again, apples and oranges.
2 seater vs 4 door
N/A vs. Turbo
Honda reliability vs Not sure with the Evo's reliability yet, only time will tell?
S2k's looks vs Evo's (subjective, but the S2k does have many more luxuries, I think the interior proves a point). For the record, I think stock Evos are UGLY. JMO
Convertible vs 4 door
etc. etc. etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>
very well spoken .....
a Camaro SS ..is a faster car ...yet i would not pick it ...the Evo 8 is a faster track car ...yet ....
i'd prolly still rather own a S2000 ....
the Evo is till a Mitsu ...the tranny prolly still wont last for long .....the interior still will never compare to a modern honda ...
the honda will last longer ...get better gas milage .....so on and so on ......
but the Evo still has its perks ...its FAST ...on the street , and on the track ...and its stil got four dours ..and daily driveable in all weather conditions
Since it isn't sports, I agree with you.
Yep.
I think some S2k owners/fans are taking it too defensively. Even though you have said the S2k is a great car (not in those words, but yeah), people still continue to argue. SPEED doesn't necessarily define a car.
Can you say a Evo is better than a Escalade just because it's faster? No. But everyone's going to have different opinions on what they like more...
The Evo is a faster car. Better car? Well, that's subjective. The S2k IMO is a much better car in many other ways. Again, apples and oranges.
2 seater vs 4 door
N/A vs. Turbo
Honda reliability vs Not sure with the Evo's reliability yet, only time will tell?
S2k's looks vs Evo's (subjective, but the S2k does have many more luxuries, I think the interior proves a point). For the record, I think stock Evos are UGLY. JMO
Convertible vs 4 door
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very well spoken .....
a Camaro SS ..is a faster car ...yet i would not pick it ...the Evo 8 is a faster track car ...yet ....
i'd prolly still rather own a S2000 ....
the Evo is till a Mitsu ...the tranny prolly still wont last for long .....the interior still will never compare to a modern honda ...
the honda will last longer ...get better gas milage .....so on and so on ......
but the Evo still has its perks ...its FAST ...on the street , and on the track ...and its stil got four dours ..and daily driveable in all weather conditions
08-04-2003, 12:35 PM
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Re: S2000 vs. Evo VIII (tsunami_zc)
I agree. Maybe the EVO8 is faster (even if I want it or not, IS FASTER), but not better. (for me it's not better, for a Lancer fan may it is, but I am a Honda fan, like a crazy)
Yeah, the new EVO's (7-8) are not as good as the 6, and Tommi Makinen edition (I mean the exterior look), but NOT ugly.
Also you're right. If we uninstall the turbocherger from the EVO, then it's like replacing his heart. I know that EVOLUTION engine has low comp, massive block, heavy&high temp. valves, stiff valve springs, heavy pistons, rods, cranckshaft etc. (and when I say heavy I mean with huge inertia, and lag. I will find out, when we start lessons again, about this & tell you...
Yeah, the new EVO's (7-8) are not as good as the 6, and Tommi Makinen edition (I mean the exterior look), but NOT ugly.
Also you're right. If we uninstall the turbocherger from the EVO, then it's like replacing his heart. I know that EVOLUTION engine has low comp, massive block, heavy&high temp. valves, stiff valve springs, heavy pistons, rods, cranckshaft etc. (and when I say heavy I mean with huge inertia, and lag. I will find out, when we start lessons again, about this & tell you...
08-04-2003, 01:05 PM
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Re: S2000 vs. Evo VIII (BafMan)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BafMan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree. Maybe the EVO8 is faster (even if I want it or not, IS FASTER), but not better. (for me it's not better, for a Lancer fan may it is, but I am a Honda fan, like a crazy)
Yeah, the new EVO's (7-8) are not as good as the 6, and Tommi Makinen edition (I mean the exterior look), but NOT ugly.
Also you're right. If we uninstall the turbocherger from the EVO, then it's like replacing his heart. I know that EVOLUTION engine has low comp, massive block, heavy&high temp. valves, stiff valve springs, heavy pistons, rods, cranckshaft etc. (and when I say heavy I mean with huge inertia, and lag. I will find out, when we start lessons again, about this & tell you...
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koool ..keep us updated .....
Yeah, the new EVO's (7-8) are not as good as the 6, and Tommi Makinen edition (I mean the exterior look), but NOT ugly.
Also you're right. If we uninstall the turbocherger from the EVO, then it's like replacing his heart. I know that EVOLUTION engine has low comp, massive block, heavy&high temp. valves, stiff valve springs, heavy pistons, rods, cranckshaft etc. (and when I say heavy I mean with huge inertia, and lag. I will find out, when we start lessons again, about this & tell you...
</TD></TR></TABLE>koool ..keep us updated .....
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Greets Again Ppl,...
I see this thread is still going on strong. I'd like to add some points if you all don't mind.
1 - The Tommi Makkinen version is not the fastest EVO, The EVO VII Extreme is (350+hp) and it bashed an E46 BMW M3 on the track.
2 - The EVO VIII is the best EVO yet because of all the extras it has (AYC etc.) that put its horsepower on the road more efficiently.
3 - In europe we've had the EVO's for a long time now, and I've never heard of any reliability problems, in fact it's considered the most reliable FI engine out there.
4 - Whoever claimed the Ford Escort RS Cosworth is faster than any EVO of late is either British, or has never raced a EVO. Ford Europe's former Flag Ship the Sierra RS 500 can't match the EVO, and the Escort is?
I see this thread is still going on strong. I'd like to add some points if you all don't mind.
1 - The Tommi Makkinen version is not the fastest EVO, The EVO VII Extreme is (350+hp) and it bashed an E46 BMW M3 on the track.
2 - The EVO VIII is the best EVO yet because of all the extras it has (AYC etc.) that put its horsepower on the road more efficiently.
3 - In europe we've had the EVO's for a long time now, and I've never heard of any reliability problems, in fact it's considered the most reliable FI engine out there.
4 - Whoever claimed the Ford Escort RS Cosworth is faster than any EVO of late is either British, or has never raced a EVO. Ford Europe's former Flag Ship the Sierra RS 500 can't match the EVO, and the Escort is?
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