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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 10:12 AM
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Default Headers or VAFC?

Im in a great predicament, I have two great deals, and I dont know what to do.

The first is the Apexi VAFC. I know it wont do much since I have an 04, but I figure I could see 4-6 hp gains, 2-4 tq gains, & better fuel economy if tuned correctly. I do understand we have a learning ECU which will compensate for these changes unless reset. Though Ive heard at WOT 80%+ it does not "learn" and adjust.

The second is the Megan Racing Header. Ive heard so many diffrent things about these headers I dont know what to belive. Some say power gains, other say you lose some low end. Ive even heard they're just light replicas of the stock. Regardless I think it'll make a great addition to my 63mm T1R test pipe & 63mm Apexi WSII cat-back. Maybe these three together can show some improvement in power.

So let me know what you would do, or what might be the better choice, Im making my purchase tommorow after noon, 01/10/2008

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BTW anybody know the size of the outlet on the megan header?
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 10:15 AM
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None of the above.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 10:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by papa5murf &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">None of the above. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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Default Re: Headers or VAFC? (papa5murf)

are you sure? I mean the VAFC is only $100 and the header im getting for $150.

any suggestions?
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 10:21 AM
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buy them and sell them for more
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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but I want more power
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CrankDatVtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are you sure? I mean the VAFC is only $100 and the header im getting for $150.

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That's cheap, buy them both. If you can't afford both, then you shouldn't be modding the S.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CrankDatVtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but I want more power </TD></TR></TABLE>

Neither will give you much. But if you want more the vafc is the better bet. But will cost more in the long run due to your need for some dyno time for tuning.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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Student loans, car payments, insurance, gas, & food would leave most broke. I try to save money and buy things when I can, no need to say I shouldnt be. I do what I could.

As for the VAFC, I too see it as a better oppertunity, I cant see the S2000 headers being any diffrent or better then stock other then less weight.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 10:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CrankDatVtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Student loans, car payments, insurance, gas, & food would leave most broke. I try to save money and buy things when I can, no need to say I shouldnt be. I do what I could.

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not to come off like your pops but you should have waited to buy the S
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CrankDatVtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Student loans, car payments, insurance, gas, & food would leave most broke. I try to save money and buy things when I can, no need to say I shouldnt be. I do what I could.
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Even more the reason you shouldn't be modding the S.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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Hey im 21, if I waited any longer it'll probably be to late, next thing you know you gotta a family.

I may have the money to buy both but I always like to save money for emergency's; *cough, cough* J's Type-S Bumper, Tow Hook, & Canards, cough*
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CrankDatVtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I may have the money to buy both but I always like to save money, for emergency's; *cough, cough* J's Type-S Bumper, Tow Hook, & Canards. cough*</TD></TR></TABLE>

*cough* blown tire *cough*
*cough* blown diff *cough*

Would you have the money to replace either of those if it happened out of the blue? Or would the S be down for a couple weeks while you wait for your paycheck?

And fully agree with being to late. Nothing wrong with having the car. You can obviously afford it, might be a bit hard but you can do it. But modding is a complete different story.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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Hey if it came to that, the money I have saved would go there. Plus my parents are really supportive. If need be they'd lend me the money.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 11:18 AM
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In that case, get the VAFC and get it tuned.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 11:21 AM
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Do you have an AP1 or AP2?
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 11:21 AM
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AP1
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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What have you done to your car?
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 11:25 AM
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Too much to list. But it's turbo charged.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 11:51 AM
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yea i suppose thats the way to go, you built it on your own or you bought a kit?
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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Bought the InLine kit and made some changes/additions to it: GT3076r, 3mm head gasket, 675cc injectors, AEM EMS, Koyo radiator, Samco radiator hose, Spec clutch. Just to name a few.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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is your car reliable tho? I would like to do F.I. but im scaired of having problems with it.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 12:39 PM
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It's been boosted for ehhhh.. roughly 6 months now. No problems. 400rwhp/300tq
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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Thats cool bro. well hey thanx for the input, im either gonna get the VAFC or stay the way I am for a while to save money for a turbo. Originaly I thought N/A but with these new 350z I gots to upgrade!
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 12:55 PM
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buy both, sell both for more than you paid, and finally buy a worthwhile mod.
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