Hey does anyone know what honda is going to be doing with the s2k in the future. I was just curious if anyone had heard of any rumors. -Jon

 

The last rumor I heard was that it's going to be discontinued after 2003. But like you said, just rumors.

 

You know what annoys the hell out of me, and I'm not sure if they have already tried this or what not, but since obviously the skyline and supra were successful when they were on the market with I6's, instead of Honda throwing that 2.0 L torqueless motor in the S2000 (not a bad motor, but would be better with I6), why didn't the put in a dual cam VTEC I6 in there.......omg, i'd be drooling. phew..

has this ever crossed anyone's mind? I mean Honda is developing a V8 (the MF408S dual cam VTEC v8 and rated so far at over 400 hp), why no I6? ;(

i dunno, maybe it's just me, but I would certainly throw an I6 dual cam vtec in the s2000 that way there is power with monster torque

 

heard honda is going bring out TypeR version of the S2k !
i hope !!

 

If they do bring out a new incarnation, it will still be below 2l. It was built to compete in sub 2000cc club racing in Japan. Same reason the Altezza is 2l.

 

Imagine if they threw the current NSX engine in there when the NSX is upgraded to an 8....

 

"i dunno, maybe it's just me, but I would certainly throw an I6 dual cam vtec in the s2000 that way there is power with monster torque"

I couldn't agree more with this comment. I drove the S2K this weekend and I found the handling characteristics to be superb, but the engine just doesn't have enough ummph. Honda makes excellent engines but I wish they had a little more torque.

 

you can say that about all of Honda's cars. Just take all the motors up a notch.

i think Honda would have been better off getting rid of all the SOHC motors...

 

yea, an I6 would be good but it would also be heavier

 

An inline six wouldn't fit, and there are no plans for a TypeR. The 2l design was intentional, and the first real revisions may occur in 2004. The revisions will be very modest but will likely include the addition of i-VTEC.

Lack of torque? A mustang has twice the torque and I don't see any of you running out to buy one.

 

it might have twice the torque, but is ugly, is ford and probably would only last a couple weeks then back to the shop for fixing ;x

as for I6's not fitting, my comment was for Honda to develop an I6 and put that into an S2k, it'd be much better, even if it was a 2.0L I6, look at the skyline and supra, those things jump off the line, imagine that for s2k with top end vtec.

maybe i should work for honda eh? j/k ;P

 

VTEC isn't something you just slap onto a engine head. Though it would be a riot to see those "Type-R" or "VTEC" stickers on a RX-7.

As for an I-6 being better, the block would be sitting where the front I-Beam crosses. (Scratch structural regidity) In addition, the heavier engine would destroy the 50-50 weight balance and the car would no longer be mid-engined. Yay, a simple engine swap turned a fine tuned sports car into a gummy Supra with a brittle rear end!

The both of the cars you referred to are larger displacement, turbos, with cams tuned to a much lower rpm band. They have lower redlines, etc... compare the 4.6l V-8 out of the Mustang, the Twin Turbo I-6 out of the Supra, and 2.0l I-4 out of the S2000 and you have three very different examples of making power out of a gasoline engine.

How's this for speculation though... While there would be a weight penalty: V-6 out of a NSX could be possible with a ton of patience and a sledgehammer. Does the NSX engine spin clock-wise or counter-clock-wise?

 

yes i understand that, wasn't sayin anything as far as throwing just a VTEC head onto an SR20 or any supra motor, I was just sayin for honda to develop one and put it into the s2000, yes swapping it yourself would throw everything off, i'm talking about honda releasing an inline 6 s2000 off the market

 

I've actually seen a VTEC sticker on a 2nd gen. RX-7 before .

 

figures......as i've seen DOHC VTEC gsr emblem on a neon

 

maybee an I5.
they could used what they know about the 2.5TL and Vigor motors to start R&D.

 

if all these came true or if honda made an Inline 6 engine damn, it would chsnge it rep as a eco car maker

 

ummm.... fire protection armed......good thing this is in the s2k/nsx forum

 

I agree that the weight would throw the car off whether it be an I6 or V6. The engine would become even more of a point of gravity to revolve around, making the S2K really tail happy.

However, with more torque, it may be more inclined to throttle steering. But most who can't drive to begin with, let alone throttle steer, would kill themselves.

 

I6 into S2k? man, it will kill the handling of that car. and i just dont understand why ppl keep saying the F20C is trqueless. can u name any 2.0 NA motor that make that much torque? it just japanese prefer having the torque come out late. and to me, it makes perfect sense for a road race car, coz higher torque in the top end can stablize the car during cornering.

 

The orginal concept car came with an orginal I-5 but it was scrapped in favor of the F20C.

Japanese auto makers tend to use smaller engines because their automobiles are taxed based upon engine displacement. A Ford mustang would be taxed at extreme exotic rates... a key reason why you don't see much 'merican 'muscle over there.

 

A 2.0L I6 and a 2.0L I4 will have very similar torque outputs assuming that the tuning done to the engine is the same.

As for the future of the S2000, minor revisions will likely come up, but I wouldnt hold my breath for the next gen since the S2000 will likely make a 6year run at least.

 

edited, sorry.



[Modified by 00-ITR-373, 8:03 PM 6/4/2002]

 

The S2000 could use more torque but I think part of the spirit of the car is that it is a 4 cylinder. I think i-VTEC could go a long ways towards broadening the power band rather than adding two cylinders. Besides, Honda wouldn't have much use for an I-6 block in the lineup.

As for the S2000's eagerness for oversteer a bigger front swaybar would solve that problem. Driving style has a lot to do with it too, you cannot pitch the car into a turn and stand on the throttle like a lot of other cars. Same goes for hard braking, if you're not braking in a straight line the car is going to step out. Minor details IMO. The S2000 is like a scalpel. Very easy to make precise cuts but similarly easy to cut too much.

 

I think that's one reason they should use it! It won't swap into anything!