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Old 02-16-2005, 11:01 AM
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im still deciding what ignition set up to go with before i start tuning for 400+whp, Anthony (precisionh23a) said to go with digital 6 but im wonder what else is out there or anyone has had expeience with? or wheres the best place to buy the digital 6

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want to know this too
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I have a MSD digital 6 Plus in my car. I have about 400whp but with a 150 shot direct port.by NX.....I been real pleased....They run close to $400...but well worth it. It has many features....CHeck it out...presicionh23a put you on the right track...

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Default Re: what ignition set up for 400+whp? (edulerp97)

i can say this, do not get the mallory. good for a while but goes out. i am misfiring somehting bad above 6k. i will be switching to MSD as well. just read the specs on the box etc and make sure it will suit your RPM application etc. but in my mind i would stick to MSD and crane following shortly there after.

the thing i like about the crane (from what i have read) is that they have stock connectors so there isnt any cut and paste crap. just plug and go.

both are good names in ignition however.
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You are right about that..Matter of fact my friend is the one that recommended the MSD D. 6 plus...Like I said I love it.....
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Default Re: what ignition set up for 400+whp? (edulerp97)

what about just the regular MSD 6a? and which coil works the best?
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Default Re: what ignition set up for 400+whp? (TurboLude97)

Digital 6 is nicer to work with and offers other features. I would stick with it. 6al is cheaper, but you get what you pay for.
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Default Re: what ignition set up for 400+whp? (john d)

Stay away from Crane. I had one about 3 or 4 years back and the ****** died on me. Not only did it die, it took my headgasket out with it.

If you are running AEM EMS you may want to try the CDI. Another option is coil on plugs if you are running EMS. If not, then the digital 6+ with hvc coil will be just fine. Like I said, I've hit 450whp on my old set-up with that ignition system. You could always try the 7 series as well but it's a bit more expensive though.
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Default Re: what ignition set up for 400+whp? (PrecisionH23a)

MSD 6AL would do it..it has that feature of high rev soft touch.
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Default Re: what ignition set up for 400+whp? (Prelude951)

The 6 plus is the way to go....6al is nice, but 6 plus is better....You need to read the features of the 6al and then read for the 6 plus...you will see that 6 plus is the way to go.....
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Default Re: what ignition set up for 400+whp? (edulerp97)

u serious..wassup with the 6a? What's the different?
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I got my digital 6 plus and blaster SS coil for all of $175 used. The thing works great and the two step is a cool feature............
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Default Re: what ignition set up for 400+whp? (john d)

I just want to add: DO NOT mount your ignition box near any engine heat. My 6 series died recently and I suspect it was because it was mounted in the firewall.
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Default Re: what ignition set up for 400+whp? (Hawkze_2.3)

you dont need a new ignition for 400whp. honda ignitions are good for about 550whp. the msd's are a waste of time and money until you reach that goal, all they do is fry your other ignition components and it's gonna fail on you randomly. ask any honda racing team what they hate most they'll probably say ignition amplifiers.
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Default Re: what ignition set up for 400+whp? (jnet)

We have ran the Crane Hi-6 for the last 2 years.
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Default Re: what ignition set up for 400+whp? (jnet)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jnet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you dont need a new ignition for 400whp. honda ignitions are good for about 550whp. the msd's are a waste of time and money until you reach that goal, all they do is fry your other ignition components and it's gonna fail on you randomly. ask any honda racing team what they hate most they'll probably say ignition amplifiers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, he does. H series ignitions are not as strong as the B series ones that can handle upwards of 400whp unfortunately. Want proof?

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1122137

There you go.
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Ok, yes, I was thinking of the B-series ignitions, but an MSD is still a pain in the ***.
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Default Re: what ignition set up for 400+whp? (jnet)

The MSD is 6 wires. It's not as bad as you think if you know how to properly run the coil wires
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Default Re: what ignition set up for 400+whp? (PrecisionH23a)

6 wires?

power
ground
signal
signal ground

what else?

EDIT: nevermind, im a dumbass... coil pos and neg
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Default Re: what ignition set up for 400+whp? (Shakes)

msd 6al with 2step and blaster two coil , i run it and love it i made 460whp 400wtq with as the dyno says but i think im making a little more power lol ill redyno soon
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would just an aftermarket coil would do the trick? do they make them for h22's? also i see you have the msd digital6, would the msd sci/msd6al also work?

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Default Re: what ignition set up for 400+whp? (nlc)

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someone i know in houston had the msd 6al on their hondata setup (h22 prelude) and jason (st00pid) said that he was having problems tuning the car with that ignition on there. they decided to put the stock ignition on and the car ran fine. of course, that's with 380whp, so i know that you need to upgrade, but since you are running hondata (i think that's right??) you may want to try a different option than the 6al, maybe try the digital 6. i'm not really familiar with ignition stuff, so i'm not sure if there will be a difference or what. or maybe st00pid is just st00pid. j/p
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ChrisRicketts &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">john d-

someone i know in houston had the msd 6al on their hondata setup (h22 prelude) and jason (st00pid) said that he was having problems tuning the car with that ignition on there. they decided to put the stock ignition on and the car ran fine. of course, that's with 380whp, so i know that you need to upgrade, but since you are running hondata (i think that's right??) you may want to try a different option than the 6al, maybe try the digital 6. i'm not really familiar with ignition stuff, so i'm not sure if there will be a difference or what. or maybe st00pid is just st00pid. j/p</TD></TR></TABLE>

i dont know about all that i run hondata with msd 6al and every thing works good the most i made with a stock setup was 400whp on a h23 at 20psi with a customer car but the car had ngk 9's to make it work
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