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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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I got my car tuned in California where the air is a lil cooler and I'm now living in Arizona where it's like 3,000ft above sea level and it's a lil hotter here (air is thinner also). Just wanted to know if driving here in AZ hurt/effect my performance/engine? (ie. a/f ratio, running rich/lean, etc.)
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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say you were going from a mid summer to Miami Tune to mid winter in colorado... maybe....

im sure the performance would be diff due to the air, but im not sure how much a tune would be able to do....... but then again, i dont know, thats just where logical thinking took me....
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 01:12 PM
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you don't have a wideband? cause if you did, you could figure if you were running lean.

what was your a/f after tune in warmer climate?
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92blkJDMh22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">say you were going from a mid summer to Miami Tune to mid winter in colorado... maybe....

im sure the performance would be diff due to the air, but im not sure how much a tune would be able to do....... but then again, i dont know, thats just where logical thinking took me....</TD></TR></TABLE>

ya, i figured the elevation would have something to do with it...but i wasnt sure if this would hurt my car--getting it tuned at sea level and driving it at 3,000ft above sea level everyday.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by petern101 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you don't have a wideband? cause if you did, you could figure if you were running lean.

what was your a/f after tune in warmer climate?</TD></TR></TABLE>

nah, i dont have a wideband...how much are those? I think my a/f was at about 14.1
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by khalal538 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ya, i figured the elevation would have something to do with it...but i wasnt sure if this would hurt my car--getting it tuned at sea level and driving it at 3,000ft above sea level everyday.

nah, i dont have a wideband...how much are those? I think my a/f was at about 14.1</TD></TR></TABLE>

if anything it would run a little richer since you are higher in elevation and its a TAD hotter. 14.1 is a little lean to make the best power, so based on what you are saying, you could actually be running around the correct afr at WOT.

widebands range from 300-600

i run a zeitronix zt2
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 06:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

if anything it would run a little richer since you are higher in elevation and its a TAD hotter. 14.1 is a little lean to make the best power, so based on what you are saying, you could actually be running around the correct afr at WOT.

widebands range from 300-600

i run a zeitronix zt2</TD></TR></TABLE>

would a car running lean smell, look, sound, feel, (taste) different? And what's your AFR?
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 07:41 PM
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running a little lean wont smell like anything. after an interstate pull during logging, it will smell like fuel after i let off, but thats about it. My afr is about 13:1 at WOT and 15.0 at part throttle.

what are you smelling?
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 01:41 AM
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Not smelling anything but fuel i'm burning at 8200rpm
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 07:32 AM
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Yes, it will affect the tune.

The PLX widebands go for about 315. I use them to tune every car that I do.

Let me know if you need one
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrecisionH23a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, it will affect the tune.

The PLX widebands go for about 315. I use them to tune every car that I do.

Let me know if you need one </TD></TR></TABLE>

how much do you sell them for? (H-T discount?)
and would it affect the tune to a point where it's noticable?
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 10:33 AM
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depends on how much of a climate and elevation change you went through. But yes, given certain circumstances, it can be noticeable.
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 11:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">depends on how much of a climate and elevation change you went through. But yes, given certain circumstances, it can be noticeable.</TD></TR></TABLE>

3000ft elevation and 5-10 degrees hotter
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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in cali, you were at sea level?
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 12:31 PM
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close, very close....
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 05:35 AM
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Ok well, I have a house in Colorado Springs (suburb) which is at 7800ft, then Cleveland Ohio which is 200ft? so im dropping 1¼ MILE, and trust me I noticed the difference on my NA setup but I have the same question you do so any answers would help ALOT

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