so far very well. no problems up to now

 

How many miles you put on it so far? You said 6k on July 1st and 15k on Aug 29th? Is that correct?

 

problems with them more than likly come with people who have ill expierence with either the intstall, or the break in on them, not including retoruing of the bolts of the LSD is a must or at least look into the torque specs of the bolts

 

im considering slapping one on my h22 5th gen but very cautious about his OBX Lsd.....any more people with more experience with it?

 

so out of curiosity.. what are the torque specs for the bolts on the diff...

 

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Most of the guys I know that build transmissions say quaife all the way. But if you do cheap out and use OBX. Just make sure as it was stated earlier in this thread to re check ALL the bolts.

Most of these cars do not need LSD just a driver IMO. Its not the cure all you cant just slap in a LSD and cut great 60fts. Just my 2cents

 

Yea but an LSD sure does help alot! One tire is never gonna give you the traction of 2.

 

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B.S.

But what do I know I guess 1.65 - 1.67 60ft.s on a bonestock H23 trans is not good then.

 

With my 5th gen and falken ziex 512's,(all season tires) I rocked out a 2.072 60 ft. I have 188hp, Open differential, stock clutch/flywheel. I gutted the back. I normally hit 2.2's and 2.1's. I still have room to improve on my technique. The point being, get your technique down first... then upgrade. Or else your upgrades are just a band aid for your bad technique. Like a guitarist that can't play so he uses distortion.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by precisionelite &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">With my 5th gen and falken ziex 512(all season tires) I rocked out a 2.072 60 ft. 188hp, Open differential, stock clutch/flywheel. I gutted the back. I normally hit 2.2's and 2.1's. I'd like an LSD now. The point being get your technique down first then upgrade. Or else your upgrades are just a band aid for your bad technique. Like a guitarist that can't play so he uses distortion. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Agreed

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My turbo car leaving with stock H23trans open diff against a rustang @ Capital raceway . Dont get me wrong I am not saying LSD's are badd I infact just recieved a quaife for my trans while the car is under construction. I am however saying for most of these cars they are not needed.

 

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That is one of the funniest ,but true, things I have every heard.

 

so yeah... does anyone know the torque specs?

 

Yea but man you have Fat *** Drag Slicks on that car, and your at the track. For good traction with your normal everyday stock street tire on the road an LSD is very useful. I have drove a JDM LSD tranny before and I loved it. LSD rocks! No LSD is still alright, and if you work the clutch right can still give you traction. And I am not saying that everyone needs one, but they sure are fun. They make it alot easier to FEEL the power of your engine.

And I am sure that good technique and an assload of practice can get you good traction without one (of course). I just think the LSD helps alot for those of us who don't practice as often, or just play around on the streets now and again.

 

I've never heard of a break-in for a helical type LSD. just for clutch type.

I'm pretty sure you can cut good 60' with slicks, try cutting good 60's on street tires. I'm sure LSD's help in traction when running street tires. I know it helps coming out of corners(comparing my old m2s4 to my new m2b4).

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MadCityLude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yea but man you have Fat *** Drag Slicks on that car, and your at the track. For good traction with your normal everyday stock street tire on the road an LSD is very useful. I have drove a JDM LSD tranny before and I loved it. LSD rocks! No LSD is still alright, and if you work the clutch right can still give you traction. And I am not saying that everyone needs one, but they sure are fun. They make it alot easier to FEEL the power of your engine.

And I am sure that good technique and an assload of practice can get you good traction without one (of course). I just think the LSD helps alot for those of us who don't practice as often, or just play around on the streets now and again.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I am not going to argue with you but those aren't big tires 24.5x8x15 pretty much no side wall. I agree fully its all in the driver. I am a street racers to the core. So I know about the street as well. On street tires I would cut low 2.1's 60ft's on 225 50 15 BFG drag radial I would cut mid to low 1.9 STOCK trans no diff. Again I didn't say lsd doesn't help but on <U>MOST</U> its not needed. Kinda goes back to the band aid theory.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 88YellowRexSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so yeah... does anyone know the torque specs?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I know the stock diff bolts are 74lb-ft *note they are <U>left hand</U> threads*

 

THANK YOU!!! I did know that they were lefty's... but cool... 74 lbs... thanks man...

 

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Anytime. Also I got 3 Im's asking was I sure they are left hand threads lol so I guess it didnt hurt to put the extra info up

 

Md23vtec,
I'm probably going to be hitting the track this friday with my M&H 23x8.5x15 slicks, any advice for me? In this case, i really would like an LSD, because you really can't feather with slicks, you just have to go full throttle. I'll be one wheel spinning like whoa,lol. any advice is greatly appreciated.

 

Modified by wEaK Squad at 2:41 PM 9/7/2006

 

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I'm probably going to be hitting the track this friday with my M&H 23x8.5x15 slicks, any advice for me? In this case, i really would like an LSD, because you really can't feather with slicks, you just have to go full throttle. I'll be one wheel spinning like whoa,lol. any advice is greatly appreciated.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just get the tires nice and hott with a good burn out. Finding the right tire pressure is also a big key. If your talking about capital raceway I'll more then likely be there friday we will have 2-4 cars running. I can explain in person better then on the net. Shoot me a pm if you want a few tip on what works for me.

 

Yes, I will be there at capitol. Getting there as early as possible to get my learn on :-)

 

Hmm how do you break in a gear type lsd... the same way you would break in a gear type locker and/or new ring and pinion in a solid axle. After install, drive for about 10 miles at low rpm's let it cool, another 10 miles, let it cool, another 10 miles, drain the fluid checking for any metal particles or other oddities such as seal particles, refill and drive gently for about the next 1500 miles, change the fluid again and give'er.

The reason for this is simple, the gears in the lsd are cut from forged steel and will have minor imperfections, the heat cycling causes the gear teeth to settle in and roll against each other compressing the imperfections into the gear making an even surface.

 

anyone got more info?, I'm interested in seeing how these are holding up

 

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Well everybody has there own side to which diff they prefer. Your going to have to make the choice yourself. I still say if your going to spend the money just get a quaife unit and call it a day. As far as OBX I'd stay on a stock open diff save ur money on the OBX and learn how to drive . Buy something else like drag radials.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by md23vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Well everybody has there own side to which diff they prefer. Your going to have to make the choice yourself. I still say if your going to spend the money just get a quaife unit and call it a day. As far as OBX I'd stay on a stock open diff save ur money on the OBX and learn how to drive . Buy something else like drag radials.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I went 14.678 before removing approximatly 130lbs. After that it went down to 14.570,14.451, then a 14.315. Practice, Determination, Dedication, Persistene: these are worth more than any part you can buy.
-Greg P
P.S. And you can always improve. Like the honda commerical says "Never stop learning...never stop winning"