OK this is a dumb question but ive read about 20 of the posts i searched but i always thought you took the little rubber cap out of the front of the tranny and set timing that way? Everything ive been seeing is on the crank pully?? Can anyone help me out here and if I am doing it right my timing is way off. nhaha

 

yes on the h22/h23 and whatnot, upull the pull on the block and shoot the gun in there.

 

You only check your timming throught the little window in front of the block covered by the rubber cap. As long as your crank and camgears are set at TDC your timming should be 15deg BTDC. You cant changed that throught the window. If your timming is off, then you would check your camgears and crankpulley to see if they are aligned.

 

Also that would be your crank and cam timing not your ignition timing. Im not sure how setting ignition timing is on other ludes but on the 5th gen its idiot proof.

 

ok im confused then. So I can just check it through the window not adjust it using that. Because the line is about 1.25in. above the little teeth. so obviously my timing is off. So to set it can i just adjust the distributer or do I have to mess with my cams and all that? Im new to this i learned on domestic vehicles a little different procedure.

 

Take your valve cover off, and make sure that both camgears have the arrow pointing straight up. Then take the rubber cap off and look to see that the pointer on the flywheel is aligned with the TDC mark. If its not then your cam/crank timming is off. The computer is programed to igninte 15deg BTDC. You cannot change that, i dont know if moving the distributor would work but its not recommended. Only with an aftermarket ECU such as Hondata or AEM can you adjust the ignition timming.

 

ignition timing and valve/piston timing is way different. to check your ignition timing you have to have a timing light. to check valve/piston timing you have to take off some ****.

when you change ignition timing you change the time it takes the spark plug to fire acording to the cam position. when you change piston/valve timing you change the time the valves are open/closed acording to the stroke of the piston.

now, to check ignition timing you use the hole on the block with the rubber cap. there is a special procedure to this so you cant just pull of the cap and check. to check piston/valve timing you check that everything is at tdc (crank, cams, distributor rotor ect.)

so what timing are you trying to adjust? post back if you have any other ?s

David

 

well im trying to do ignition timing but everyone keeps telling me to check on the crank pully. so im all confused. How do i adjust the ignition timing by rotating the distributer cap right. And to do the crank you have to make sure everything is lined up at TDC. I dont know if people realize there is 2 different timings. Im trying to do ignition timing. I know about how to put it in timing mode and all but it just doesnt look like you can rotate the cap of the distributer. maybe im wrong thou.

 

to set ignition timing you have to warm up the car to normal operating temp.(take a small drive). shut the car off. jump the service connector by using a paper clip in the shape of a U (the same one you jump for CEL). start the car up and let idle with all accesories off. hook the timing gun up (neg battery terminal, positive battery terminal....yadda yadda) then point the timing gun in that hole and pull the trigger. you should see a mark that had the number 15 next to it that lines up with the pointer on the block. if not you need to adjust it.

to adjust it you have to loosen the 3 12mm bolts that hold the distributor on the head. move the entire distributor (with the car still idleing) very SLOWLY forward (advance) or backwards(retard) till you see the mark lined up with the pointer using the light. the idle may drop down a bit when you move the distributor but its ok just stop and let it go back to normal. when you get it adjusted tighten down the bolt for the distributor and check it again because it might move a lil when you tighten down the bolts. after that your done. remove the gun and paper clip

David

 

Couldnt have said it better myself

 

Thank you very much this is exactly what i was looking for.

 

no problem. just make sure you rotate the distributor slowly and jump the connector. the reason you jump the connector is so the ecu doesnt adjust the timing back to what it was while you were adjusting it in the first place. in other words if you dont jump the connector you will be wasting your time because the ecu is compensating for the adjustment that you are making(if that makes any sense?). those are pretty much the only things you need to look out for. if you have any other questions just post back

David

 

I got it all timed but i did forget to jump the connector but it is still set at where I set it and it is running 10X better than before. Should I redo it by jumping to connector or do you think im ok?

 

if it is running good, i would say it is ok. it doesnt hurt to have the timing advanced a little. it would give a little more power anyway. but you have to be careful to not turn it too high in fear of burning out the combustion chamber or burning the piston. I had to advance mine in order to pass emissions cause i was running lean. I needed to burn up more gas. When i first got my motor, the timing was advanced so far that it only had one bolt in the distributor. I dunno what those weirdos in japan were doing! I would say that you are fine.