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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 12:53 AM
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has anyone ever corner balanced their prelude? i want to do this with some skunk2 coilovers, but i want a spring that is less agressive. any recomendations? also, does corner balancing mess up the shocks at all? i would think that lowering/raising a corner of the car would have an affect on the shock's bound/rebound, and the car's overall handling characteristics. thanks.
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:29 AM
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 08:54 AM
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IIRC, you can only do corner weighing with true coilovers. I am not sure about sleeves. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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Corner balancing the car just involves making minute adjustments in corner height. The slight change in corner height that you would see in a proper corner weighting would have almost no impact on where your damper begins its stroke. So unless you have really $$$ cutsom dampers designed specifically with a really narrow sweet spot where the damper stroke MUST begin, you will be fine.

IMHO, corner balanacing is not worth the money unless the car is used in compettion and driven at the limit. You will not get a noticable benefit out of cornerbalancing otherwise.

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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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^^ yes

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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 11:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aklucsarits &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Corner balancing the car just involves making minute adjustments in corner height. The slight change in corner height that you would see in a proper corner weighting would have almost no impact on where your damper begins its stroke. So unless you have really $$$ cutsom dampers designed specifically with a really narrow sweet spot where the damper stroke MUST begin, you will be fine.

IMHO, corner balanacing is not worth the money unless the car is used in compettion and driven at the limit. You will not get a noticable benefit out of cornerbalancing otherwise.

Andrew</TD></TR></TABLE>



<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sticky Tires &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IIRC, you can only do corner weighing with true coilovers. I am not sure about sleeves. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You can do it with sleeves. All cornerweighting does is adjust the height of each corner of the car.
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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my buddy has an ITR, which come corner balanced from the factory. after feeling the difference, its something i really want to do. i've been in lowered cars before, but theres something different when you auto-x in his stock, right from the factory, corner balanced car...
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BB6racer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my buddy has an ITR, which come corner balanced from the factory. after feeling the difference, its something i really want to do. i've been in lowered cars before, but theres something different when you auto-x in his stock, right from the factory, corner balanced car...</TD></TR></TABLE>

while it certainly helps, there are a lot of other things going on in a stock ITR that aren't going on in a lot of other stock hondas, or even modified hondas.
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 08:42 AM
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Very true Bad Monkey. The ITR is almost near perfect suspension wise from the factory, so you are feeling much more than just the effects of corner weighting. Those cars are incredible in the handling department, not a very good car to compare to a prelude. My neighbor who runs legend cars has the equipment to do corner weighting, and told me it would be a waste of time unless the car was going to see heavy track use.
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 08:51 AM
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i still think cornerweighting is a good idea, for a car that will be turned vigorously, but it's not absolutely necessary.

that said, i track my car fairly often, and it's never been cornerweighted. not that i don't want to CW it, i just can't afford to, atm
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 09:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bad-monkey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">while it certainly helps, there are a lot of other things going on in a stock ITR that aren't going on in a lot of other stock hondas, or even modified hondas.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I want to know more about this: what makes the ITR different from the factory.
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 01:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vinuneuro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I want to know more about this: what makes the ITR different from the factory.</TD></TR></TABLE>

In terms of the ITR chassis, it recieved a lot more bracing and reinforcement from the factory, increasing the overall rigidity of the chassis while keeping the curb weight down (in fact, 20 lbs less than a GSR, IIRC). Add to that the OEM equipped shocks and springs and the LSD and different gearing (well, in japan at least, though i can't remember what the USDM ITR ratios are) and there's alot of things that we could never easily reproduce in a prelude, most notably the chassis rigidity and the available 4.7 FD that doesn't cost 1200 bucks to custom make.

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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 11:04 PM
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obviously the prelude chassis will never amount to that of an ITR. but every little bit helps in my opinion. powerwise, the H22's displacement can more than make up for the weight up until about 70 mph, which at that point the ITR slowly pulls me. any corners though and he's got me beat no sweat. and we both auto-x/track frequently enough for me to consider corner balancing. some day i will beat him!!!!
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 11:27 PM
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i dont understand. the prelude feels so....solid, though. Why is it so heavy? I mean the car feels really solid at any speed.
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