Suspension help
#1
Suspension help
I'll try to keep it short for yall that know more then me. Got my alignment today, I have a rear disc brake swap from an interga on my 1988 crx si. The chamber in the rear was fixxed but the toe is off. Iv read Integra arms that control toe are an inch shorter then crx ones. Anybody can confirm this? And now the biggest problem, the fronts caster and chamber is off and the coilovers that are on there now dont adjusted for that, only height. Can anybody recommend a fully adjustable set up front and back?
#3
Re: Suspension help
I should be able to get it. I'm reading that I may just need a chamber kit up front that adjusts to make up the distance change from being lowered.
#4
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Re: Suspension help
you do not need a camber kit. camber is unadjustable, and negative camber due to lowering IS NORMAL and BENEFICIAL.
you ONLY need to adjust your toe. the change in toe angle after lowering (and regular old misalignment) is what causes uneven tire wear.
and yes, the rear toe link is not the same as other cars, you should use the original length ones.
you do not need to buy anything aftermarket.
you ONLY need to adjust your toe. the change in toe angle after lowering (and regular old misalignment) is what causes uneven tire wear.
and yes, the rear toe link is not the same as other cars, you should use the original length ones.
you do not need to buy anything aftermarket.
#5
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so heres my paper. Rear chamber is fine. Front needs fixxed big time. Rear toe needs fixxed, but front is fine. So wouldnt stock or adjustable rear toe arms fix the rear? And then a front adjustable chamber kit to correct my chamber and caster?
#6
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In case it's hard to read it says
Front left
Toe 5/16 changed to 1/16 and is green.
Chamber -2.05 and stayed -2.05 because I have stock none adjustable chamber arms, still red
Caster 1.1 still 1.1 because from what I read caster and chamber are adjusted together. Also red
Rear left
Toe 7/16 to 1/2 still red
Chamber -0.20 stayed -0.20 green
Front right
Toe 1/16 stayed 1/16 green
Chamber -1.45 still -1.45 red
Caster 0.4 to 0.5 still red.
Rear right
Toe 3/4 stayed 3/4 and is red
Chamber -0.30 to -0.25 green
I can also include what the min, performed and, max on each of chamber, caster , and toe is if it helps.
Front left
Toe 5/16 changed to 1/16 and is green.
Chamber -2.05 and stayed -2.05 because I have stock none adjustable chamber arms, still red
Caster 1.1 still 1.1 because from what I read caster and chamber are adjusted together. Also red
Rear left
Toe 7/16 to 1/2 still red
Chamber -0.20 stayed -0.20 green
Front right
Toe 1/16 stayed 1/16 green
Chamber -1.45 still -1.45 red
Caster 0.4 to 0.5 still red.
Rear right
Toe 3/4 stayed 3/4 and is red
Chamber -0.30 to -0.25 green
I can also include what the min, performed and, max on each of chamber, caster , and toe is if it helps.
#7
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Caster is how far ahead one tire is ahead of the other. It's adjusted via the radius rods.
If you want a camber kit. The skunk2 pro is a good one.
It's a decent investment. If you want your tires to wear evenly.
If you want a camber kit. The skunk2 pro is a good one.
It's a decent investment. If you want your tires to wear evenly.
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#9
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Sorry I realize I asked kinda dumb fallow up question. As far as caster goes everything I read says its the rod's you mentioned being bent or bad bushing's. Or the front lower control arm being bent or bad bushing's. Or the crossmember being bent. Or the worst the frame its self being bent. Since the front doesnt appear to have suffered any type of damage I'm hoping it's a replaceable part that will allow me to get the caster where it should be.
#10
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Your camber is fine. You're probably just really low.
Ignore factory specs, your car ride height is not at factory specs, why should you think anything else should be?
I don't think your toe is well aligned. Should be straight with the amount of drop you are at.
Stop spelling camber wrong.
Ignore factory specs, your car ride height is not at factory specs, why should you think anything else should be?
I don't think your toe is well aligned. Should be straight with the amount of drop you are at.
Stop spelling camber wrong.
#11
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I just bought the car the way it is man. I want it close to factory alignment so my tires wear even and the car handles good. I obviously cant spell that great so i dont get how telling me to stop spelling it wrong helps, but cool. I'm just trying to do **** right, because money isnt a problem for me. Everything done to this car before me screams half ***. They put a gasket maker on a valve cover gasket, when they threw on the valve cover. they painted it in **** paint that's peeling. they lowered it but that's it. No other supporting parts. They let the wheel hub get so bad in the back all you cloud hear was it vibrate when driving. They threw on a 3inch exhaust. Took off most of the air filter parts. Deleted the evap system stuff. Tons of things I never would have done honestly but oh well. I try not to complain to much. I just try to fix my car the best I can. Sorry if I left anything out kinda had a shitty day as is but at least I'm figuring out what I'll need to buy next month.
#12
Honda-Tech Member
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Ill say it one last time for you.
You don't need a camber kit. Your camber is fine. Camber does not wear tires.
Your toe is still off. Bad toe wears tires.
Getting a camber kit is not the right thing to do.
You don't need a camber kit. Your camber is fine. Camber does not wear tires.
Your toe is still off. Bad toe wears tires.
Getting a camber kit is not the right thing to do.
#13
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Thanks for the help. I want to do this. That's it. Need or dont need is irrelevant to me. Again thanks though. Not that you care, but I'm buying the correct comp arms for the rear toe. The camber kit for the front. Then 'm replacing the lower control arms and ball joints.
#14
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Camber kits are very well needed. Dealership tech here and autocrosser. I do my own alignments. Camber wear is a major issue on tires with vehicles that are lowered then factory spec. Ive had same civic chassis for 10 years. Trust me , front and rear camber kits are beneficial, for not only track use for adjustment on the fly, but daily driving as well.
#15
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Thanks for the help. I want to do this. That's it. Need or dont need is irrelevant to me. Again thanks though. Not that you care, but I'm buying the correct comp arms for the rear toe. The camber kit for the front. Then 'm replacing the lower control arms and ball joints.
#16
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I appreciate the response. I unfortunately have no idea when I'll be able to complete this because I'm hoping to save up for a house loan. Actually looking for a place that I'll be able to put my crx in a garage or at least a covered spot. Living in Oregon has not been kind to this car over the years.
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