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Old 01-23-2009, 01:22 PM
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this morning when i got in my car to go to work it didnt want to start. i replaced the bat, checked the starter, alternator. So im thinking its the ign. switch but i dont know how to tell if its still good or not and i dont want to buy one from the dealer and that not be the probelm. i also checked the black/white wire at the switch and still nothing..... everything in the dash and cluster still lights up and the ecu isnt throwing any codes.

SO CAN SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE ME A TIP ON WHAT IT MIGHT BE???
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does it try to crank? do you hear a click?
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Did you hear the fuel pump turn on?
If not, most likely it's the PGM-FI relay under the dash. Theyre notorious for failures.
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Originally Posted by DTA-Zombie
does it try to crank? do you hear a click?
the engine doesnt turn over and i dont hear a click.
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Originally Posted by patriot
Did you hear the fuel pump turn on?
If not, most likely it's the PGM-FI relay under the dash. Theyre notorious for failures.
yea man the fuel pump came on.
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update: i jumepd the starter while it was still attached to the car and all it did was spin, the enngine didnt turn over at all, so im thinking that maybe the starter went out. maybe the sprocket in the starter isnt shoothing out to the fly wheel.
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What motor is it and i will tell you because when the starters get hot in d series they tend to start when they want to
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And being as there is no click check the wiring to your starter it maybe bad, bad or lose connection do some retarded things and its not the fuel if there is no click buddy
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its a b16a2... if it does turn out to be the starter any b series starter should work correct??
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has to be the starter. the starter only spins when the coil on the inside lets it know that the starter is against the flywheel..something is taking that signal and tellin the starter that its pushed against it so it spins. so yes i bet its the starter.
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if you only jump the motor it should just spin. you would need to jump the solenoid and the motor for it to turn the engine. if you're fuel pump primes when key is turned to on the relay should be okay. maybe try the neutral safety switch, if its bad then the starter wont turn.
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Check that the "starter signal" fuse under dash is not blown, then check that the signal is getting to the solenoid. Good luck!
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Default Re: my freakin car wont start!!!

Originally Posted by vitaminb18a1
if you only jump the motor it should just spin. you would need to jump the solenoid and the motor for it to turn the engine. if you're fuel pump primes when key is turned to on the relay should be okay. maybe try the neutral safety switch, if its bad then the starter wont turn.
Actually...the motor ALWAYS has power...notice that fat cable that runs from your battery to the starter?
He's giving the solenoid power(which creates the ground for the starter motor) but its not kicking the pinion out, only spinning the motor.
It's the starter. Replace it. :D
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Originally Posted by adams90crx@msn.com
And being as there is no click check the wiring to your starter it maybe bad, bad or lose connection do some retarded things and its not the fuel if there is no click buddy
...and I'm not sure if you were really trying to be helpful here...
If so, learn before you speak.
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Originally Posted by apekd
has to be the starter. the starter only spins when the coil on the inside lets it know that the starter is against the flywheel..something is taking that signal and tellin the starter that its pushed against it so it spins. so yes i bet its the starter.
aaaand the starter starts to spin before it pushes the pinion out(actually it should be the same time) so that it doesnt just run into the flywheel and not engage...
There is no "signal" when the starter 'hits' the flywheel, especially since it shouldnt be hitting the flywheel. That would mean the solenoid is working but the motor is not.
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well the starter is pushed out my a "fork" and when its all the way out it completes the circuit that makes it spin. so yes it is the starter. I didnt mean when it hit the flywheel i really jsut meant when it was all the way out. the signal is when the fork completes the circuit. sorry for the people that cant understand my thinking.
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update: i pulled the starter off and tested it and all it did was spin and it wouldn pop out.
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Default Re: my freakin car wont start!!!

Originally Posted by apekd
well the starter is pushed out my a "fork" and when its all the way out it completes the circuit that makes it spin. so yes it is the starter. I didnt mean when it hit the flywheel i really jsut meant when it was all the way out. the signal is when the fork completes the circuit. sorry for the people that cant understand my thinking.
No no, it should spin as it comes out otherwise its likely the gear teeth will just hit the side fo the flywheel teeth. If it spins as it comes out it'll rotate into position and engage the flywheel.

To the OP, just get a new starter. :D
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