best single cam engine in a 91 hatch
#27
Re: best single cam engine in a 91 hatch
TonyLove - it's all fun and games to me. Either way I just checked eGay and the cheapest JDM 92-95 D15 was still $1k - and you are stuck with whatever transmission you have. At that point your are better off going B-swap. Hey, if you are happy with it then good for you - I don't play with D-series any ways, at least not any more.
P.S. I have always said, "The Haterade is there for you to drink, not me!"
P.S. I have always said, "The Haterade is there for you to drink, not me!"
#28
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Alright kid, I was putting up with your crap but now you are asking for it. Clearly you are a broke *** kid with no experience. You race other people with garbage cars because you live in the ghetto. I live no where near the west coast that is flooded with JDM stuff so for me it's a waste of time. You ask the dumbest questions that define your lack of knowledge and experience. Stop trying to compare ***** because you will lose every time.
#29
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lmao i live in the ghetto. hahah if its a waste of time then get out of the honda scene your think your all smart yet you still havent proved me wrong ther are more than 3 ppl on this thread that agree with me that the d15b vtec is cheap n is the best dont hate cuz i live in cali and i get easy access to more parts motors and other stuff than you if im so broke then why do i have a b18c1 sitting in my garage why is it that to do maintence on my car i use mostly oem honda parts from the dealer ship and i do all my work on my car from my swaps to electrical yeah bro im just a broke kid that had three hondas 91 civic 94 coupe and a 99 coupe sorry that my info is better and backed up by other ppl that i dont know
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When did I ever say the JDM D15 wasnt a viable option or even a bad one? Not everyone has easy street access to JDM stuff. Most of who agreed with you are from CA too. You said most not all - and you can't afford to pay a shop. Also, your newest car is a 99' which is over a decade old which further proves my point. You said it yourself C1 not the baller C5... add another one to the tally. You make this too easy. Also, stay in school - I said JDM stuff is a waste of MY time, not Hondas, as I boost everything I touch; aside from my Chevy - those are half and half. The head and block don't care where it's from when you force it to breathe and the tuning is completely different. Thank you for the laughs though son - this is good entertainment while I sit on my *** at work.
#31
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Re: best single cam engine in a 91 hatch
Alright kid, I was putting up with your crap but now you are asking for it. Clearly you are a broke *** kid with no experience. You race other people with garbage cars because you live in the ghetto. I live no where near the west coast that is flooded with JDM stuff so for me it's a waste of time. You ask the dumbest questions that define your lack of knowledge and experience. Stop trying to compare ***** because you will lose every time.
lmao i live in the ghetto. hahah if its a waste of time then get out of the honda scene your think your all smart yet you still havent proved me wrong ther are more than 3 ppl on this thread that agree with me that the d15b vtec is cheap n is the best dont hate cuz i live in cali and i get easy access to more parts motors and other stuff than you if im so broke then why do i have a b18c1 sitting in my garage why is it that to do maintence on my car i use mostly oem honda parts from the dealer ship and i do all my work on my car from my swaps to electrical yeah bro im just a broke kid that had three hondas 91 civic 94 coupe and a 99 coupe sorry that my info is better and backed up by other ppl that i dont know
When did I ever say the JDM D15 wasnt a viable option or even a bad one? Not everyone has easy street access to JDM stuff. Most of who agreed with you are from CA too. You said most not all - and you can't afford to pay a shop. Also, your newest car is a 99' which is over a decade old which further proves my point. You said it yourself C1 not the baller C5... add another one to the tally. You make this too easy. Also, stay in school - I said JDM stuff is a waste of MY time, not Hondas, as I boost everything I touch; aside from my Chevy - those are half and half. The head and block don't care where it's from when you force it to breathe and the tuning is completely different. Thank you for the laughs though son - this is good entertainment while I sit on my *** at work.
#32
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why would i have to pay a shop when i could do a full rebuild of a motor my self???? i thought my knowledge was crap???? didnt you say a y8 would walk over my d15b and wow sorry im not interested one 2011 si even edmuds say that the 99-00 si was a better choice. if you really knew that the c1 and c5 blocks are the same they dont even change only thing that changes are the pistons n the head so much difference sorry let me go buy k20z1 or a k24a2....ummmm like i care how you boost everything you touch you sir still havent proven a point my advice to the guy of how is a y8 better than a d15b vtec by the way this is my last post in this thread cuz mr nevereversatisfied doesnt even prove a point and talks about boosting and other stuff that doesnt even mater the point is the best d series single cam out there is d15b ppl agree and the numbers dont lie
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Actually facts don't lie and the fact of the matter is that 99.9% of us on here:
1 Aren't going to leave the engine in stock form
2 Aren't unbiased coming into this thread
3 Aren't looking at things from the same perspective
I could add a few more (actually a lot more) but I'll keep it short as I'm sure you guys get the point. Bottom line is there is no "best single cam engine in a 91 hatch" because we are all different and have different intentions. All there really is that we can do is provide pros and cons of each based on the FACTS. Even then that can only go so far because these engines are used and in some cases abused and no two engines will perform exactly the same.
Agree to disagree and move on.
1 Aren't going to leave the engine in stock form
2 Aren't unbiased coming into this thread
3 Aren't looking at things from the same perspective
I could add a few more (actually a lot more) but I'll keep it short as I'm sure you guys get the point. Bottom line is there is no "best single cam engine in a 91 hatch" because we are all different and have different intentions. All there really is that we can do is provide pros and cons of each based on the FACTS. Even then that can only go so far because these engines are used and in some cases abused and no two engines will perform exactly the same.
Agree to disagree and move on.
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#36
Re: best single cam engine in a 91 hatch
Actually facts don't lie and the fact of the matter is that 99.9% of us on here:
1 Aren't going to leave the engine in stock form
2 Aren't unbiased coming into this thread
3 Aren't looking at things from the same perspective
I could add a few more (actually a lot more) but I'll keep it short as I'm sure you guys get the point. Bottom line is there is no "best single cam engine in a 91 hatch" because we are all different and have different intentions. All there really is that we can do is provide pros and cons of each based on the FACTS. Even then that can only go so far because these engines are used and in some cases abused and no two engines will perform exactly the same.
Agree to disagree and move on.
1 Aren't going to leave the engine in stock form
2 Aren't unbiased coming into this thread
3 Aren't looking at things from the same perspective
I could add a few more (actually a lot more) but I'll keep it short as I'm sure you guys get the point. Bottom line is there is no "best single cam engine in a 91 hatch" because we are all different and have different intentions. All there really is that we can do is provide pros and cons of each based on the FACTS. Even then that can only go so far because these engines are used and in some cases abused and no two engines will perform exactly the same.
Agree to disagree and move on.
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Re: best single cam engine in a 91 hatch
As for the TB and port match, there has been much debate on it and after reading a thread a few years ago on d-series.org about the physics of it, I side on the team of leaving a step at least 2mm between the TB and inlet on the manifold (58mm TB, 60mm inlet). I don't have dyno sheets to prove it either way, but on a stock motor/intake mani I just don't see the TB being a choke point.
To the OP; if you're staying obd0 go d16a6, or if you swap go d15b/d16z6. I prefer z6's to d16y series due to their occasional oiling issues and I prefer the z6 head for most builds.
#43
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Z6 block has better oiling and the Y8 head has better quench (better factory bowls) with the intake being more refined to the torque curve. This is assuming you want to either build it up or use cheaper used factory parts. Otherwise go stock D16Z6 - bit if you want to stay OBD-0 then hard to say... because pretty much all OBD-0 SOHC's suck. I would go JDM D15 or D16A6.
Also I am sure your D15 feels peppy, but if you put a stock Y8 in a EF it would walk a D15... The only way you are beating LS's is with shitty drivers or the actual vehicle (decent weight difference).
Also I am sure your D15 feels peppy, but if you put a stock Y8 in a EF it would walk a D15... The only way you are beating LS's is with shitty drivers or the actual vehicle (decent weight difference).
Complete z6 vtec head and IM, intake, headers, crank was polished and balanced, all bearing were replaced, block was honed, Si trans, Si shift linkage, short shifter that I chopped even shorter, stage 2 exeddy clutch and pressure plate, very stiff and low suspension, 11lb HX wheels...I beat LS' too..I beat them so effortlessly I don't bother with them anymore. I have moved onto racing and beating more powerful cars (not all the time) like RSX-S from a dig and HWY runs. With that being said, I have no issues believing that (with the right driver and a light weight car like mine) these little 1.5 blocks can race and beat cars with twice the power. In conclusion don't be intimidated by bigger motors, just do yours right and drive it accrodingly
#44
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You may say something on this old *** thread you bumped, but people with half a brain won't listen after you pluralize header.
#45
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[QUOTE=crvtectim;47957246]You may say something on this old *** thread you bumped, but people with half a brain won't listen afte
Oh I'm sorry that's my fault. I don't know if you're being a ********, being cool or insinuating something else, but thanks for the insight. I'm just proud of my car.
Oh I'm sorry that's my fault. I don't know if you're being a ********, being cool or insinuating something else, but thanks for the insight. I'm just proud of my car.
#46
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I am/ it was a little bit of all that. And you're welcome. I'll be proud of your car too if you can post proof of your Mini Me walking a Type S on a highway pull.
Vids or it didn't happen! :p
Vids or it didn't happen! :p
#47
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Ok. I'll try n do that. But is this unheard of? A mini me beating a type s? Because I have a buddy who has a hatch with a y8 that's faster than mine, that's who I'm really after. But yea I'll try n do that. And I didn't say I "walk them" it goes back and forth.
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