YS1 b16 tranny?
02-15-2004, 08:58 PM
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YS1 b16 tranny?
Im new to b-series, but is there such a thing as a YS1 b16 tranny? I thought YS1's were LS and 92-93 GSR trannies?
http://bseries.net/html/specs/btrannyspecs.php
Fill me in fellas.
I mean, fill me in on the info.
http://bseries.net/html/specs/btrannyspecs.php
Fill me in fellas.
I mean, fill me in on the info.
02-16-2004, 01:51 AM
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Re: (92b16vx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92b16vx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As far as I know it came on the RSi/Xsi also, which had a B16A.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks. I thought so too, hmotorsonline offers the YS1 on the XSI swap, but then I saw a tranny list and YS1 was only given with LS and 92-93 GSR models.
Anyone else think differently/same?
Thanks. I thought so too, hmotorsonline offers the YS1 on the XSI swap, but then I saw a tranny list and YS1 was only given with LS and 92-93 GSR models.
Anyone else think differently/same?
02-16-2004, 12:02 PM
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Re: YS1 b16 tranny? (Nihonjin)
I have a first gen B16a and at the time of purchase I was told that I could get the one with the J1 tranny or the YS1 tranny as well as some others, thinking maybe it did come with a b16a at first.
02-16-2004, 10:21 PM
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Re: YS1 b16 tranny? (Nihonjin)
All 92-93 integra trannies were YS1's. It doesn't matter if its an rs/ls/gs/gsr. They are all labelled the same. However the gearing is different in the ys1's that came with the gsr model. Also, the 92-93 jdm xsi (b16a) came with a ys1 tranny that had optional lsd. I'm unaware if the 92-93 jdm b18a's also had ys1's (but most likely no one cares anyway).
Oh, and just in case you didn't know... ys1's are cable operated.
Oh, and just in case you didn't know... ys1's are cable operated.
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02-24-2004, 08:24 AM
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Re: YS1 b16 tranny? (91IntegGS)
I have a 92 Honda Integra (jdm) b16a 170hp Xsi/Rsi motor.
The motor is obd1 with a cable YS1 tranny w/ lsd. i bought my setup from steve @ hmo over a year ago. Oh the Xsi/Rsi motors all begin with a 1 series. This is a pretty good swap setup imo. you get a 170hp motor with a gsr tranny and lsd. 10:4:1 cr you have alot of upgrade options...
The motor is obd1 with a cable YS1 tranny w/ lsd. i bought my setup from steve @ hmo over a year ago. Oh the Xsi/Rsi motors all begin with a 1 series. This is a pretty good swap setup imo. you get a 170hp motor with a gsr tranny and lsd. 10:4:1 cr you have alot of upgrade options...
02-24-2004, 08:51 AM
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Re: YS1 b16 tranny? (paybac4223)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by paybac4223 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a 92 Honda Integra (jdm) b16a 170hp Xsi/Rsi motor.
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XSi/RSi's had 160PS...
http://www.honda.co.jp/HOT/Mod....html
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XSi/RSi's had 160PS...
http://www.honda.co.jp/HOT/Mod....html
02-26-2004, 01:52 PM
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Re: YS1 b16 tranny? (92b16vx)
I personal have been through several B16's 160hp and 170.
XSi is 170 HP
Steve@ Hmototorsonline.com
and Jerrybuilt can confirm that strongly.
Steve does offer a sweet deal on that Xsi swap 170 hp OBD1 b16 with a Ys1 cable tran with Pr3 Obd1 Ecu which has a nice program from Jap.
BTW, I live one mile from Hmotors.
XSi is 170 HP
Steve@ Hmototorsonline.com
and Jerrybuilt can confirm that strongly.
Steve does offer a sweet deal on that Xsi swap 170 hp OBD1 b16 with a Ys1 cable tran with Pr3 Obd1 Ecu which has a nice program from Jap.
BTW, I live one mile from Hmotors.
02-26-2004, 08:00 PM
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Re: YS1 b16 tranny? (HAPSD)
I'm just saying that according to Hondas website, which I link right to the correct page, says it's 160 for manual and 150 for auto.
02-26-2004, 08:14 PM
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Re: YS1 b16 tranny? (91IntegGS)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91IntegGS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also, the 92-93 jdm xsi (b16a) came with a ys1 tranny that had optional lsd. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Correct... we have 2 of them
Correct... we have 2 of them
02-27-2004, 06:37 AM
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Re: YS1 b16 tranny? (Newman)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Newman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Correct... we have 2 of them </TD></TR></TABLE>
Newman can also confirm to you that the JDM 92-93 Xsi B16 gray plug obd1 is 170hp Not 160 and definitely Not 150. Right Newman?
Correct... we have 2 of them
</TD></TR></TABLE>Newman can also confirm to you that the JDM 92-93 Xsi B16 gray plug obd1 is 170hp Not 160 and definitely Not 150. Right Newman?
02-27-2004, 08:21 AM
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Re: YS1 b16 tranny? (HAPSD)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HAPSD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Newman can also confirm to you that the JDM 92-93 Xsi B16 gray plug obd1 is 170hp Not 160 and definitely Not 150. Right Newman? </TD></TR></TABLE>
I won't get into a heated discussion about this or that (nor did I even read have of what was said up above by others), but state the facts that I know of first hand. The 92-93 B16A motors that came with the XSi Integras were all grey plug and all had the YS1 cable tranny on them, and all had DA parts, mounts, brackets, and linkage with it. The motor itself and the ECU (OBD-1 PR3) are the exact same ****/specs as the 92-95 EG6 B16A stuff, only the ECU says P30 but has the same specs and works the same. The longblocks are the same, have the same castings on the head and block, and when you take the head off of both blocks, they're both using P30 pistons. If one had PR3 pistons, then I'd tell you that was the 160hp motor but both have the P30 pistons, thus are the 170hp motors. No difference in cams, head, intake manifold, or throttle body.
Also, we've had auto JDM 1st gen and 2JDM nd gen B16 swaps come through our shop. From what I've seen and taken apart, the 1st gen auto B16's have the same short blocks but have a shitty cam profile (noticable when you put them side by side with some 5-spd cams), but otherwise same **** for everything else. The 2nd gen auto B16 (grey plug motors) have the same pistons, same cams, same everything as the 5-spd OBD-1 B16A motors, just comes with a flex plate rather than a flywheel.
Newman can also confirm to you that the JDM 92-93 Xsi B16 gray plug obd1 is 170hp Not 160 and definitely Not 150. Right Newman? </TD></TR></TABLE>
I won't get into a heated discussion about this or that (nor did I even read have of what was said up above by others), but state the facts that I know of first hand. The 92-93 B16A motors that came with the XSi Integras were all grey plug and all had the YS1 cable tranny on them, and all had DA parts, mounts, brackets, and linkage with it. The motor itself and the ECU (OBD-1 PR3) are the exact same ****/specs as the 92-95 EG6 B16A stuff, only the ECU says P30 but has the same specs and works the same. The longblocks are the same, have the same castings on the head and block, and when you take the head off of both blocks, they're both using P30 pistons. If one had PR3 pistons, then I'd tell you that was the 160hp motor but both have the P30 pistons, thus are the 170hp motors. No difference in cams, head, intake manifold, or throttle body.
Also, we've had auto JDM 1st gen and 2JDM nd gen B16 swaps come through our shop. From what I've seen and taken apart, the 1st gen auto B16's have the same short blocks but have a shitty cam profile (noticable when you put them side by side with some 5-spd cams), but otherwise same **** for everything else. The 2nd gen auto B16 (grey plug motors) have the same pistons, same cams, same everything as the 5-spd OBD-1 B16A motors, just comes with a flex plate rather than a flywheel.
02-27-2004, 09:08 AM
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Re: YS1 b16 tranny? (HAPSD)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HAPSD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Newman can also confirm to you that the JDM 92-93 Xsi B16 gray plug obd1 is 170hp Not 160 and definitely Not 150. Right Newman? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Call Honda and ask, all I am doing is passing on info to you, from Honda Japans website, that may, just may be wrong according to all the "experts". You could send them a email if it makes that much of a difference to you.
Newman can also confirm to you that the JDM 92-93 Xsi B16 gray plug obd1 is 170hp Not 160 and definitely Not 150. Right Newman? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Call Honda and ask, all I am doing is passing on info to you, from Honda Japans website, that may, just may be wrong according to all the "experts". You could send them a email if it makes that much of a difference to you.
02-28-2004, 06:14 PM
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Re: YS1 b16 tranny? (Newman)
Well then if you are correct, HMO went through alot to make my swap look like a 2nd gen b16... lets see i have the intake manifold of a 2nd gen b16, the valve cover of a 2nd gen...when i take the valve cover off the head has the appearance of a 2nd gen....well maybe steve didnt even give me a jdm motor....maybe the grey plugs on the harness, the japanese fuse box and oil filter are most likely fake too!
I have no reason to lie about my setup... i personally drive to HMO to pick up my engines.
If i am not mistaken i think the design of the intake and exhaust manifold were part of the reason for the performance gains over the 160hp b16.
Modified by paybac4223 at 11:08 AM 2/29/2004
I have no reason to lie about my setup... i personally drive to HMO to pick up my engines.
If i am not mistaken i think the design of the intake and exhaust manifold were part of the reason for the performance gains over the 160hp b16.
Modified by paybac4223 at 11:08 AM 2/29/2004
03-13-2004, 06:06 AM
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Also, first gen b16a (88-91) has a twin wire O2 sensors whereas the 2nd gen b16a (aka b16a1 - 92 and up) has a one 4-wire O2 sensor. But you already know that the first gen is a cable tranny and 2nd gen being hydralic.
Hope that clears things up a bit..?
Hope that clears things up a bit..?
03-13-2004, 06:14 AM
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Re: (92b16vx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92b16vx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As far as I know it came on the RSi/Xsi also, which had a B16A.</TD></TR></TABLE>
DING DING!
We have a winner!
Yes the JDM YS1 has the exact same ratios as the USDM Type R tranny (except some have a slightly different first gear ratio) and the USDM 92-93 Integra GS-R trannies.
Also the YS1 is the only cable tranny that yo can rebuild with internals from local Acura dealers because they are the same as the aforementioned USDM 92-93 Integra GS-R.
All other older JDM Y1, J1, and S1 trannies are not rebuildable without ultra-rare rebuild kits from Japan.
My coworker has a JDM YS1 with optional factory LSD in it.
DING DING!
We have a winner!
Yes the JDM YS1 has the exact same ratios as the USDM Type R tranny (except some have a slightly different first gear ratio) and the USDM 92-93 Integra GS-R trannies.
Also the YS1 is the only cable tranny that yo can rebuild with internals from local Acura dealers because they are the same as the aforementioned USDM 92-93 Integra GS-R.
All other older JDM Y1, J1, and S1 trannies are not rebuildable without ultra-rare rebuild kits from Japan.
My coworker has a JDM YS1 with optional factory LSD in it.
03-14-2004, 07:04 PM
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Re: (B18C5-EH2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
DING DING!
We have a winner!
Yes the JDM YS1 has the exact same ratios as the USDM Type R tranny (except some have a slightly different first gear ratio) and the USDM 92-93 Integra GS-R trannies.
Also the YS1 is the only cable tranny that yo can rebuild with internals from local Acura dealers because they are the same as the aforementioned USDM 92-93 Integra GS-R.
All other older JDM Y1, J1, and S1 trannies are not rebuildable without ultra-rare rebuild kits from Japan.
My coworker has a JDM YS1 with optional factory LSD in it.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Very well put B18C5-EH2
Legend says thay the YS1 tran has slightly shorter gear ratios than the Type R trannies. Eugene at Prospeed and Jerrybuilt may be able to confirm that for you as well.
DING DING!
We have a winner!
Yes the JDM YS1 has the exact same ratios as the USDM Type R tranny (except some have a slightly different first gear ratio) and the USDM 92-93 Integra GS-R trannies.
Also the YS1 is the only cable tranny that yo can rebuild with internals from local Acura dealers because they are the same as the aforementioned USDM 92-93 Integra GS-R.
All other older JDM Y1, J1, and S1 trannies are not rebuildable without ultra-rare rebuild kits from Japan.
My coworker has a JDM YS1 with optional factory LSD in it.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Very well put B18C5-EH2
Legend says thay the YS1 tran has slightly shorter gear ratios than the Type R trannies. Eugene at Prospeed and Jerrybuilt may be able to confirm that for you as well.
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