hello all. I have a 94 civic Si hatch and im having problem getting traction. I knew when going in to this i would have this problem but i didnt know that it would spin tires going in to 3rd gear... its an all stock h22a4 nothing but a clutch and some hasport mounts. It defiantly is fun to drive but i see lots of people not having this much problems with traction... i was wondering if there was any advise people could shoot my way to help me with my problem.. yes i know a gsr motor would of been easier..

 

GSR would have been easier yes, but not near as fun to drive lol. The only thing you can really do is get some sticky tires and maybe a bigger size. With that much power in a light car there is much you can do about it. You could try launch contol but that would require alot of ignition modding.

 

traction bars, sticky tires/larger tires..

EDIT- By larger I mean wider, not monster truck status here.

 

That and also approach the throttle with a lighter touch, finesse it. When I went from Civic to Prelude I had problems chirping the tires for about a week. It was embarrassing.

 

Oooo! This makes me excited as I should be getting my car back from the shop soon! I started a H22 swap, ran out of time and had it towed over. They are finishing it up this week.

Anyways, I agree with others, traction bar, wider/stickier tires.

 

I see you didn't mention what kind of tires you have.

 

Tires make a world of difference.

 

traction bar

http://www.full-race.com/store/tract...ction-bar.html

 

Traction bar won't do anything to increase his traction, not unless he's launching on a drag strip.

At least, it doesn't matter if he's using crappy tires. Which we've yet to discover is he's using drag radials, summer tires, or all season sumitomos.

 

i hate the term traction bar. i'd rather call it a wheel hop bar lol.

stickier tires is pretty much the only thing you can do.

 

old, worn suspension components can amplify the issue. if you haven't yet, check everything and replace as needed.

if you get some good tires on there and are still having trouble you may want to concider an LSD. that should make the best use of any tire you put on.

 

Tire width is irrelevent. Get better gripping tires, and good quality suspension.

 

Let some air out. Bigger tires (wider and diameter). You want the contact patch with the ground as large as possible. Shift weight in the car to the front if possible.

 

contact patch does not change size with tire width. only shape.

 

with the exception of the contact patch getting wider thereby increasing in area (given similar tires... all variables controlled other than width).

 

Contact patch size is a function of tire pressure and weight of the vehicle. as the contact patch gets wider, it gets shorter in length

 

sorry it took me awhile guys. I have falkin 512s there 205/40/16. I have traction bars on the rear but with the h22 swap the front ones wont fit. i have ground control coil overs with koni struts. it rides great. What kind of tires do we recommend?? i have looked in to bf goodrich Gforces not sure what you all think of them...

 

how do you have traction bars on the rear? o_O

 

He probably meant either a subframe brace or a sway bar.

 

I would certainly recommend you get a pretty sticky summer tire like an RE-11, a yokohama S. Drive, or something similar.

Go to tire rack and look at summer tires and see which one they like the best in their recent testing. Can't really go wrong in picking one of tire racks choices of solid summer tires.

This is what led me to purchase my Yokohama S. Drives:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=131

 

Do you know for a fact that the traction bars will not fit up front?

Check this site out. I am sure the owner here can help you out since he specializes in H swaps. They even make the traction bars which can hook up to the front mount on the H22 motor. I plan on picking one up when I get my tax refund next year I already have their Alternator reolcation bracket to be able to use a OBD0 Civic alternator. Worked out perfectly for me.

http://www.explicitspeedperformance.net/ESPTBS.html

 

LSD?

 

No such thing as rear traction bars on a FWD.

Re-11's, dunlop dirreza(sp) star spec.

 

sorry i meant sway bars. I am think about getting an lsd tranny but wasn't to sure if that was a sure fix.. ya know?

 

Why don't you start with the most significant aspect of your suspension that effects traction:




Your tires.