Is there really a difference.....HondaMTF vs. 10w30
10-02-2004, 03:29 PM
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Is there really a difference.....HondaMTF vs. 10w30
Is it really noticable? I'm about to change the fluid. Honda dealer service guys said "we use both, not really a difference."
What do you think?
What do you think?
10-02-2004, 04:25 PM
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Re: Is there really a difference.....HondaMTF vs. 10w30 (slowEKsedan)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slowEKsedan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why are you comparing tranny fluid with motor oil?</TD></TR></TABLE>
because honda says instead of being able to use honda MTF 10-30 is acceptable.
honda MTF has additives that help condition the transmission that 10-30 does not. use MTF if you have the option.
because honda says instead of being able to use honda MTF 10-30 is acceptable.
honda MTF has additives that help condition the transmission that 10-30 does not. use MTF if you have the option.
10-02-2004, 05:32 PM
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Re: Is there really a difference.....HondaMTF vs. 10w30 (Kamin)
You can use either 10w30 or 10w40 for tranny fluid. Keep in mind though Honda MTF is a lot better. I don't remember the numbers exactly but its something like:
Honda MTF: 15,000 miles till next change
10w30/40: 12,000 miles till next change
Do a search on tranny fluid because there is a thread that has a comparison chart on it.
Honda MTF: 15,000 miles till next change
10w30/40: 12,000 miles till next change
Do a search on tranny fluid because there is a thread that has a comparison chart on it.
10-02-2004, 07:01 PM
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Re: Is there really a difference.....HondaMTF vs. 10w30 (eh6)
as far as i have HEARD from some inside sources is that honda mtf is nothing more than relabeled mobil 1
10-02-2004, 07:09 PM
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Re: Is there really a difference.....HondaMTF vs. 10w30 (eh6)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eh6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Honda MTF: 15,000 miles till next change
10w30/40: 12,000 miles till next change</TD></TR></TABLE>
No way the interval can be THAT short. We're talking manual tranny here.
10w30/40: 12,000 miles till next change</TD></TR></TABLE>
No way the interval can be THAT short. We're talking manual tranny here.
10-02-2004, 08:09 PM
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Re: Is there really a difference.....HondaMTF vs. 10w30 (ek9t)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek9t »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as far as i have HEARD from some inside sources is that honda mtf is nothing more than relabeled mobil 1</TD></TR></TABLE>
uhh ever taken a big whiff of honda MTF? yea it sure as **** isnt mobil 1.
uhh ever taken a big whiff of honda MTF? yea it sure as **** isnt mobil 1.
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10-02-2004, 08:25 PM
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Re: Is there really a difference.....HondaMTF vs. 10w30 (Kamin)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kamin »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
uhh ever taken a big whiff of honda MTF? yea it sure as **** isnt mobil 1. </TD></TR></TABLE>
werd.... it smells like oil/gear oil.... its basically 10w30 with an additive...
uhh ever taken a big whiff of honda MTF? yea it sure as **** isnt mobil 1. </TD></TR></TABLE>
werd.... it smells like oil/gear oil.... its basically 10w30 with an additive...
10-02-2004, 08:37 PM
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Re: Is there really a difference.....HondaMTF vs. 10w30 (IslandSi)
the more times the better, you figure if you every grided a gear, there's metal shavings, that go in your tranny oil. and that just goes around and around through the gears, wearing them down and F***ing **** up, part ware alot faster when there's matel in the oil. if you know what I mean.
10-02-2004, 08:52 PM
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Re: Is there really a difference.....HondaMTF vs. 10w30 (civtegra_hybrid)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civtegra_hybrid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the more times the better, you figure if you every grided a gear, there's metal shavings, that go in your tranny oil. and that just goes around and around through the gears, wearing them down and F***ing **** up, part ware alot faster when there's matel in the oil. if you know what I mean.</TD></TR></TABLE>
huh?
huh?
10-02-2004, 08:55 PM
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Re: Is there really a difference.....HondaMTF vs. 10w30 (civtegra_hybrid)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civtegra_hybrid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the more times the better, you figure if you every grided a gear, there's metal shavings, that go in your tranny oil. and that just goes around and around through the gears, wearing them down and F***ing **** up, part ware alot faster when there's matel in the oil. if you know what I mean.</TD></TR></TABLE>
the Tranny has a magnet in it to pick up any metal shavings. but i guess you didn't know that.
the Tranny has a magnet in it to pick up any metal shavings. but i guess you didn't know that.
10-02-2004, 08:59 PM
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Re: Is there really a difference.....HondaMTF vs. 10w30 (nickatiah)
I havent changed the tranny fluid in my car for 85k miles
and no problems, manual
Well I got the car at 81k but the guy didnt change it.
and no problems, manual
Well I got the car at 81k but the guy didnt change it.
10-02-2004, 09:00 PM
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Re: Is there really a difference.....HondaMTF vs. 10w30 (nickatiah)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nickatiah »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
the Tranny has a magnet in it to pick up any metal shavings. but i guess you didn't know that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
the magnet wont pick up brass syncro shavings...
the Tranny has a magnet in it to pick up any metal shavings. but i guess you didn't know that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
the magnet wont pick up brass syncro shavings...
10-04-2004, 09:17 AM
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Re: Is there really a difference.....HondaMTF vs. 10w30 (slambedcivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slambedcivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the magnet wont pick up brass syncro shavings...</TD></TR></TABLE>
syncros are made of brass? i thought they were made of aluminum or steel.
syncros are made of brass? i thought they were made of aluminum or steel.
10-04-2004, 09:21 AM
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Re: (IslandSi)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IslandSi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm at 58K on my 00 SI and never changed the tranny fluid.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I feel sorry for that neglect inflicted upon your Si.
I change my motor oil, radiator fluid and transmission fluid like clockwork.
Pennzoil Synchromesh here.
I feel sorry for that neglect inflicted upon your Si.
I change my motor oil, radiator fluid and transmission fluid like clockwork.
Pennzoil Synchromesh here.
10-04-2004, 10:57 AM
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Re: Is there really a difference.....HondaMTF vs. 10w30 (mika)
Honda MTF is gear oil. I forget if it's 70w80 or 75w80.
Either way, at standard trani operating temperatures, 10w30 and Honda MTF will be about the same. If your running at the extremes, they exhibit slightly different properties.
Either way, at standard trani operating temperatures, 10w30 and Honda MTF will be about the same. If your running at the extremes, they exhibit slightly different properties.
10-04-2004, 11:56 AM
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Re: Is there really a difference.....HondaMTF vs. 10w30 (project_mercy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by project_mercy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Honda MTF is gear oil. I forget if it's 70w80 or 75w80.
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really? my acura helms says to use 10w30 or 10w40 when refilling the tranny. it doesnt even say to use acura or honda branded mtf. wierd. and it definately isnt mobil1. you should never use synthetic engine oil in a honda tranny... its too slippery
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really? my acura helms says to use 10w30 or 10w40 when refilling the tranny. it doesnt even say to use acura or honda branded mtf. wierd. and it definately isnt mobil1. you should never use synthetic engine oil in a honda tranny... its too slippery
10-04-2004, 12:22 PM
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Re: Is there really a difference.....HondaMTF vs. 10w30 (dantastic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dantastic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
really? my acura helms says to use 10w30 or 10w40 when refilling the tranny. it doesnt even say to use acura or honda branded mtf. wierd. and it definately isnt mobil1. you should never use synthetic engine oil in a honda tranny... its too slippery</TD></TR></TABLE>
Honda (or Rover, as the case may be) didn't create their MTF until recently. I forget when. Irrelivently, if you have a manual from 95 or earlier, for sure, it won't mention Honda MTF, because it didn't exist.
really? my acura helms says to use 10w30 or 10w40 when refilling the tranny. it doesnt even say to use acura or honda branded mtf. wierd. and it definately isnt mobil1. you should never use synthetic engine oil in a honda tranny... its too slippery</TD></TR></TABLE>
Honda (or Rover, as the case may be) didn't create their MTF until recently. I forget when. Irrelivently, if you have a manual from 95 or earlier, for sure, it won't mention Honda MTF, because it didn't exist.
10-04-2004, 12:45 PM
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Re: Is there really a difference.....HondaMTF vs. 10w30 (project_mercy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by project_mercy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Honda MTF is gear oil. I forget if it's 70w80 or 75w80.
Either way, at standard trani operating temperatures, 10w30 and Honda MTF will be about the same. If your running at the extremes, they exhibit slightly different properties.</TD></TR></TABLE>
honda mtf is not gear oil.
and yes most syncros are brass
Either way, at standard trani operating temperatures, 10w30 and Honda MTF will be about the same. If your running at the extremes, they exhibit slightly different properties.</TD></TR></TABLE>
honda mtf is not gear oil.
and yes most syncros are brass
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