LHC

is there anyone out there who can tell me anything about the spoon short blocks- i havent been able to find any websites with the specs so im thinking that its kinda risky.
i've got an eg6 with n1 muffler, 4-2-1, calipers+rotors, V-AFC, and other goodies but i need a bigger powerplant; this is why im asking...

INVALID

I don't believe they do just shortblocks, they only sell the entire engine $$$ try http://www.inlinefour.com or the spoon personal website http://www.spoonsports.com (or something).

Are you willing to pay the cost of this engine?

LHC

im not gonna spend more than 10k-i figure that should be enough to get the engine-install it (i cant do it!!)-and wahtever other bits i need to do.
what i really wanna know is how good is it??!!

DevinW

I highly doubt it'd be very reliable or worth it. You can probably make similar power with a Type R engine and be more reliable.

INVALID

B16A ENGINE ASSEMBLY -- $5,880.00
B16B ENGINE ASSEMBLY -- $6,125.00
B18C ENGINE ASSEMBLY -- $6,370.00


They stock the B18c long block due to demand

LHC

well, the thing is that my dream car is a fully spooned g6-almost there exept for the powerplant-i guess wot you're suggesting is a b18c-spec-r with spoon mods yeah?? hummm...anyone out there tried this experiment yet?

CRX_VTEC

For 10K I can get 2 swaps and 2 cars to go with it!!

Forget the Spoon engine.... why are all you people willing to spend so much on a Spoon motor when its nothing more then a stock motor with slight mods? You dont get any Spoon parts on it... no Spoon cams... no Spoon bored TB... no Spoon header.. no Spoon cam gears... no Spoon vavle train.... No Nothing! Why are you willing to pay so much? WhY? Why why wHY!!??

INVALID

I don't think the reliablity should vary much between the two, there isn't too much of a difference in two similar engine say b16 and spoon b16, they balance and blueprint the engine along, with changing out some of the standard parts with spoon parts such as the throttle body, cams, camshafts, gaskets, and so on. I don't quite remember all listed changes but it would be nearly the same as modding a B18C5.

small listing of spoon parts ( not necessarily included with engine, transmission parts are obvious indications also-not transmission included).

Spoon B-series Engine Assembly
Spoon B-series Transmission Assembly
Spoon 1.8L Stroker Kit for B16B
Spoon Sports Lightweight Flywheel
Spoon Drop-In Air Filters
Spoon Clutch Kits
Spoon Ventuli Plate
Spoon LSD Kit
Spoon 70mm Throttle Body
Spoon Close Gear Set
Spoon Racing Camshafts
Spoon Final Drive Gear Set
Spoon Cam Gears
Spoon Sports Balanced JDM Type-R Pistons
Spoon Engine Mount Set
Spoon B-Series Baffle Oil Pan
Spoon 2ply Head Gasket

INVALID

There are some Spoon parts on the engine, just not many...I do know the throttle body is part of it, too bad I cannot remember much else.

On a different note the SPOON SPORTS site will no longer be available for those interested

CRX_VTEC

IMO .. there is no way you can justify the price of thier engines. A slight compression bump and a balancing act and they charge twice as much! They dont even make good power.. but I guess its worth it to some.. after all... you get a Yellow vavle cover..

JaeOne3345

what lots of people forget is that many japanese NA race crate motors are put together with looser clearances, cuz they need to haul *** right away. i wouldnt want that on a engine i gotta commute on.

u can piece together spoon parts on your own, but in my opinion there are so many other ways u can achieve similar horsepower, dont think u rgonna get a spoon motor after a 6 month wait..strap it on the dyno and make 250hp

VTECVillain

"I need some Spoon motors"....... where I have I heard that before???

B18C5-EH2

Spoon motors are a freaking rip.

Buy an ITR swap and drop some nice cams in it.

Benj

Don't go with the Spoon engine. It's really not worth it. They're not reliable for daily driving, plus even the 2.0 stroked B18C5 Spoon engine doesn't make good power

WAFFLES

I'm learning to blueprint engines so I can start selling stock motors specially blueprinted for a **** load of money...YEEEESSSSSS!!!!!

dom93hatch

Hey let the man do as he pleases...

...but IMO Spoon is just a name - and a lot of people buy it because that name is stamped on the product.

2FASTDC2

If your going to spend that kind of money build a 2.0 b18c, way more reliable and will make more power

GokuSSJ4

get an ITR swap and if you want some Spoon in it get the cams .(the spoon cams are mild cams)

vovinamer

are the spoon engines brand new? or used ones that they get?

EKhatch

Some of you guys are way off track.

More money? Go to your local Honda/Acura dealer and you'll see that the price is very close or maybe even cheaper for the Spoon Sports engine. If you then took that engine apart did all the machine work and put it back together the cost would be significantly more than the aftermarket counterpart.

Not reliable? Give me a break. How is an engine that has been balanced with basically the same internals not reliable. You think that a high compression engine with aggresive cams and a lopy idle is going to be more reliable? Come on people don't spend so much time reading between the lines.

B18C5=Same power? Again take an engine, throw on a few of the most proven aftermaket goodies, do the machining and slap it back together. For the same price you have an engine that is just as reliable and maybe only slightly more powerfull but makes good power were it counts the most.

Sure go ahead and make fun of the Spoon Sports name. Seems as though it easy easy to do. Too many people are so concerned about have high HP numbers that they don't even care about anything else. There is more than one way to skin a cat, doing it with the biggest knife isn't necissarily the best way!

I am not trying to make any personal attacks. I am just a fan of Spoon Sports as some of us still are and I am trying to bring in the other side of the coin to the posters question!

B18C5-EH2

So do you know anyone who has had a SPOON motor and drove it daily for a long time?

You do understand the SPOON crate motors aren't for street use, right?

You're getting ripped off no matter what the hell you say.

...And I never said build a motor with higher CR or any of that ****. Take a stock ITR swap and add some better cams and don't even touch the the bottom end.

Want to see a SPOON motor dyno'd?



Absolutely SHITTY.

My bone stock ITR swap with onyl intake, exhaust, and re-chipped ECU pulled 175whp. This is a USDM ITR motor with the stock shitty cast-iron exhaust manifold and no tuning.

Spoon motor?



Know what you're talking about next time please, thanks!

STEALTHMODECOUPE

So do you know anyone who has had a SPOON motor and drove it daily for a long time?

You do understand the SPOON crate motors aren't for street use, right?

You're getting ripped off no matter what the hell you say.

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toms right man..i personally like most of spoons products and will sport a lot on my car and get flamed for it for paying to much but theres a limit bro..

EKhatch

And exactly why are they not reliable?

Not for street use? Please explain.....

STEALTHMODECOUPE

there meant more for racing..they tell you that

B18C5-EH2

It's already been covered in this very thread: