Snapped Cam Cap Bolts!
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Snapped Cam Cap Bolts!
I fuking hate these damn bolts. Snapped two of them and the rest is stuck down in the hole, one was already broken before I took them out with the bolt just sitting there . Yes I was using a torque wrench...how do I take the rest out? Can I drive fine with two broken?
Picture for reference: Two red circled ones are the snapped off inside..
Picture for reference: Two red circled ones are the snapped off inside..
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Re: (pdiggitydogg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pdiggitydogg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you drill a really small hole in the bolts and then use an EZ out to extract them.....good luck
i wouldnt drive with it like that</TD></TR></TABLE>
what size drill bit and ez out do i need?
i wouldnt drive with it like that</TD></TR></TABLE>
what size drill bit and ez out do i need?
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thats a good question......Id say "small"
the bit will be like 1/16 or MAYBE 3/32...and the ez out will be similarly sized - it just has to start out smaller than the hole you drill.
Its too cold for me to go out and look at mine...sorry
It just has to be smaller than the M6 bolt that you have stuck
Im assuming you know how to use one, or know someone who does?
the bit will be like 1/16 or MAYBE 3/32...and the ez out will be similarly sized - it just has to start out smaller than the hole you drill.
Its too cold for me to go out and look at mine...sorry
It just has to be smaller than the M6 bolt that you have stuck
Im assuming you know how to use one, or know someone who does?
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Re: (pdiggitydogg)
Center punch those before you do anything and make sure your straight. Did the break happen more in where the threads are or can you get some vise on them? For the love of boobies center punch them first. (bad expereince )
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Re: (pdiggitydogg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pdiggitydogg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh yeah.....center punch those suckers before you drill!!
Bad experience x2......</TD></TR></TABLE>
F@@k that i'd punch the motor in it's face for breakin bolts
Bad experience x2......</TD></TR></TABLE>
F@@k that i'd punch the motor in it's face for breakin bolts
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Re: (zerovandez)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Center punch those before you do anything and make sure your straight. Did the break happen more in where the threads are or can you get some vise on them? For the love of boobies center punch them first. (bad expereince )</TD></TR></TABLE>
I can't get it with a vise, or would've tried that What size center punch do I need and how do I use it or how does it work?
I can't get it with a vise, or would've tried that What size center punch do I need and how do I use it or how does it work?
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Anything with a point...you can use a hardened nail if you find one at the bottom of a toolbox.
Youre just going to be drilling a hole straight into the broken bolt - not very deep really. Then taking the EZ out (its reverse threaded) and removing the bolts bottom. The hole only needs to be deep enough for the extractor to get a grip - dont go crazy.
The punch is just so you can get a nice hole centered in the bolt.
Its really very simple, you'll kick yourself once youre done with it in 5mins. A lot of people are afraid to try it for no reason
Youre just going to be drilling a hole straight into the broken bolt - not very deep really. Then taking the EZ out (its reverse threaded) and removing the bolts bottom. The hole only needs to be deep enough for the extractor to get a grip - dont go crazy.
The punch is just so you can get a nice hole centered in the bolt.
Its really very simple, you'll kick yourself once youre done with it in 5mins. A lot of people are afraid to try it for no reason
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Re: (pdiggitydogg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pdiggitydogg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anything with a point...you can use a hardened nail if you find one at the bottom of a toolbox.
Youre just going to be drilling a hole straight into the broken bolt - not very deep really. Then taking the EZ out (its reverse threaded) and removing the bolts bottom. The hole only needs to be deep enough for the extractor to get a grip - dont go crazy.
The punch is just so you can get a nice hole centered in the bolt.
Its really very simple, you'll kick yourself once youre done with it in 5mins. A lot of people are afraid to try it for no reason</TD></TR></TABLE>
I found this https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=567450 is it the same process?
Youre just going to be drilling a hole straight into the broken bolt - not very deep really. Then taking the EZ out (its reverse threaded) and removing the bolts bottom. The hole only needs to be deep enough for the extractor to get a grip - dont go crazy.
The punch is just so you can get a nice hole centered in the bolt.
Its really very simple, you'll kick yourself once youre done with it in 5mins. A lot of people are afraid to try it for no reason</TD></TR></TABLE>
I found this https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=567450 is it the same process?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cheesee »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I found this https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=567450 is it the same process?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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exactly the same thing, yes
(I just dont like that type of extractor - I prefer this kind:
They sell these everywhere - hardware stores, part stores, hell even Kmart probably
(I just dont like that type of extractor - I prefer this kind:
They sell these everywhere - hardware stores, part stores, hell even Kmart probably
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No, header and intake bolts are M8, the bolts youre working with are M6 - you need to use the size that I suggested earlier. A 1/8" bit would be just as thick as the bolt you need to remove (and that is not the goal) You just want to put a hole in it for the extractor.
You will want a number 0 extractor, if you can get one. 1 may work though....I dont keep actual sizes stored in memory
You will want a number 0 extractor, if you can get one. 1 may work though....I dont keep actual sizes stored in memory
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Re: (pdiggitydogg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pdiggitydogg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No, header and intake bolts are M8, the bolts youre working with are M6 - you need to use the size that I suggested earlier. A 1/8" bit would be just as thick as the bolt you need to remove (and that is not the goal) You just want to put a hole in it for the extractor.
You will want a number 0 extractor, if you can get one. 1 may work though....I dont keep actual sizes stored in memory</TD></TR></TABLE>
icic. i think i might have some of the bolts left over some where when i replaced them the first time. ill just bring those to the hardware store. thanks
You will want a number 0 extractor, if you can get one. 1 may work though....I dont keep actual sizes stored in memory</TD></TR></TABLE>
icic. i think i might have some of the bolts left over some where when i replaced them the first time. ill just bring those to the hardware store. thanks
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Any similar size bolt will be the same diameter, no need to really go searching for one of these cam cap bolts specifically. (unless you know where they are)
Id just pull one from any location temporarily
Id just pull one from any location temporarily
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Re: (pdiggitydogg)
hahah yes i knew it would happen the shop i worked at I WAS THE ONLY ONE who did not use the air ratchet on those
all the other techs said i was slow but i knew that **** was going to happen!!!!
haha now you know to put the air ratchet down and go get the manual ratchet
all the other techs said i was slow but i knew that **** was going to happen!!!!
haha now you know to put the air ratchet down and go get the manual ratchet
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Re: (pdiggitydogg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pdiggitydogg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">explain...</TD></TR></TABLE>
it didn't work. the extractor wouldnt grip on the bolt, now there's just shavings in the hole
it didn't work. the extractor wouldnt grip on the bolt, now there's just shavings in the hole
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Re: (pdiggitydogg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pdiggitydogg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what size hole and which number extractor did you use?</TD></TR></TABLE>
1/16 and #1 extractor
1/16 and #1 extractor