rolling on 17" rims on hatchback, not lowered, still rubbing. what gives?
01-02-2002, 09:03 PM
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rolling on 17" rims on hatchback, not lowered, still rubbing. what gives?
still rubbing on the 17"s not lowered on a 92 hatchback civic. thought it dont rub when not lowered, what's up? also, if i get it on a 98 civic coupe, would it be the same result since it seems that the hatchback looks low as it is while the coupe seems ok. someone help
01-03-2002, 03:15 AM
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Re: rolling on 17" rims on hatchback, not lowered, still rubbing. what gives? (hobo79)
I have 17x7" w/ a 40 offset and have had no problems lowered 2+ inches. 205/40-17 Pirelli p7000ss tire.
01-03-2002, 09:05 AM
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Re: rolling on 17" rims on hatchback, not lowered, still rubbing. what gives? (hobo79)
well, when there is a total of 5 people in the car it rubs, but when its just 2 people then most of the time it wont rub. is this normal?
01-03-2002, 09:14 AM
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Re: rolling on 17" rims on hatchback, not lowered, still rubbing. what gives? (hobo79)
yea when the car is overloaded like that on a stock suspension it will rub
ive had 4 people in mine when it rubs alot
with 2 or 3 there is no rubbing.
[Modified by KAMiN, 6:14 PM 1/3/2002]
ive had 4 people in mine when it rubs alot
with 2 or 3 there is no rubbing.
[Modified by KAMiN, 6:14 PM 1/3/2002]
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Re: rolling on 17" rims on hatchback, not lowered, still rubbing. what gives? (hobo79)
still rubbing on the 17"s not lowered on a 92 hatchback civic. thought it dont rub when not lowered, what's up? also, if i get it on a 98 civic coupe, would it be the same result since it seems that the hatchback looks low as it is while the coupe seems ok. someone help
get smaller rims like 15's or something 17's are way too big for an eg
01-05-2002, 11:40 AM
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Re: rolling on 17" rims on hatchback, not lowered, still rubbing. what gives? (SiTEC)
I got a 92 hatch on 17 motegi racing mr7's I also have a set of Neuspeed race springs to drop it 2.5 inches
At first I was rubbing all the time but a friend taught me an old trick to roll the fender lip in a little
First you need to lift the rear of your car up just enough to get the handle end of a baseball bat in between the fender and the tire, then you lower the car a little at a time and roll the bat back and forth from the front of the wheelwell opening to the back.
This will fold the fender lip up enough to clear the bigger tires. It sounds silly but it really does work
At first I was rubbing all the time but a friend taught me an old trick to roll the fender lip in a little
First you need to lift the rear of your car up just enough to get the handle end of a baseball bat in between the fender and the tire, then you lower the car a little at a time and roll the bat back and forth from the front of the wheelwell opening to the back.
This will fold the fender lip up enough to clear the bigger tires. It sounds silly but it really does work
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01-05-2002, 09:19 PM
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Re: rolling on 17" rims on hatchback, not lowered, still rubbing. what gives? (hobo79)
well, when there is a total of 5 people in the car it rubs, but when its just 2 people then most of the time it wont rub. is this normal?
Okay try this, if your car empty has a right height of 6.2" but when there are 5 people in it the ride height is only 4.5", what has happened???
01-06-2002, 01:26 AM
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Re: rolling on 17" rims on hatchback, not lowered, still rubbing. what gives? (Civic242)
yeah with that much load (5 passengers) its going to rub on a lowered car w/ 17's.. its normal..
01-06-2002, 05:24 AM
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Re: rolling on 17" rims on hatchback, not lowered, still rubbing. what gives? (DragonCTR69)
FWI: in a test conducted using 15's and 17's... The 17's out performed the 15's in the 0-60 test by .2 sec, in the quarter mile by .1 sec, in the braking test by 1 foot, in the skid pad test by pulling .87 G's vs .86 g's (using 15's), oh and the slalom course... 67.1 mph to the 15's 66.9... they were even 1 Db quieter at 60mph than the 15's.
According to Alan Paradise (of Civic Duty) So 17's are the way to go... the Diameter is the same as Stock, while the 15's provide a .4 inch advantage in this area it is not realized in terms of performance.
According to Alan Paradise (of Civic Duty) So 17's are the way to go... the Diameter is the same as Stock, while the 15's provide a .4 inch advantage in this area it is not realized in terms of performance.
17's will have more rotational mass, there is no way that they would out perform in any catagory other than handling. I'd like to know what the conditions of that test were.
01-06-2002, 06:59 AM
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Re: rolling on 17" rims on hatchback, not lowered, still rubbing. what gives? (AntGonch)
Not to mention that 17 with 40s will bend like **** if your hit a pot hole or curb. At least with 15s the extra cushion of 50s could save your rims. And yeah 17s are heavier then 15s and 16s. Even when you look at the tire weight alone. 17" tires weight more then a 15" tire. More rotaional mass, lower FWHP, slower car. 
01-06-2002, 10:59 AM
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Re: rolling on 17" rims on hatchback, not lowered, still rubbing. what gives? (hobo79)
i have 18's 215/35 on my civic with a 3 inch drop and i can fit 3 people in back wihtout rubbing.. its all in the OFFSET!!!
01-07-2002, 04:24 AM
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Re: rolling on 17" rims on hatchback, not lowered, still rubbing. what gives? (DragonCTR69)
ok so if all weights were the same your saying the 17's would be the best, but what about the overall diameter of a 17 it is larger than a 15 so than i would think that gear ratio w/ the 17's would be taller thus slower than a 15 which would make your gear ratio shorter which i would think would be better for acceleration. just my opinion.
01-07-2002, 04:31 AM
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Re: rolling on 17" rims on hatchback, not lowered, still rubbing. what gives? (sohc_boy)
**** some 17'' wheels/tires.
WHY?
Tell me ONE good tire in a 17'' size for an EG. Don't give me some BULLSHIT Yoko Parada, Falken Ziex, or Nitto ****.
17'' tires in the 205/40/17 are pretty shitty in terms of treadware and GRIP. The only halfway decent tire would be the Dunlop W10 Sport, and that's it.
Sorry dude, but look at the tire thread right below this one and you'll get the real story on wheels/tires for the 1992-1995 Civic. Even 16'' are too big because of the stupid-*** tires available in the 205/40/16. Only good 16'' tires are in 205/45/16, and those go on the EK which has a BIGGER wheel well, so the 16'' in fine for those.
17's?
WHY?
Tell me ONE good tire in a 17'' size for an EG. Don't give me some BULLSHIT Yoko Parada, Falken Ziex, or Nitto ****.
17'' tires in the 205/40/17 are pretty shitty in terms of treadware and GRIP. The only halfway decent tire would be the Dunlop W10 Sport, and that's it.
Sorry dude, but look at the tire thread right below this one and you'll get the real story on wheels/tires for the 1992-1995 Civic. Even 16'' are too big because of the stupid-*** tires available in the 205/40/16. Only good 16'' tires are in 205/45/16, and those go on the EK which has a BIGGER wheel well, so the 16'' in fine for those.
17's?
01-07-2002, 07:49 AM
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Re: rolling on 17" rims on hatchback, not lowered, still rubbing. what gives? (DragonCTR69)
I also don't believe everything I read either man...
Name a 205/40/17 tire with a treadwear of 180 or below. Toyo Proxes tires are pretty hard and not very grippy, right?
[Modified by B18C5-EH2, 4:49 PM 1/7/2002]
Name a 205/40/17 tire with a treadwear of 180 or below. Toyo Proxes tires are pretty hard and not very grippy, right?
[Modified by B18C5-EH2, 4:49 PM 1/7/2002]
01-07-2002, 07:58 AM
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Re: rolling on 17" rims on hatchback, not lowered, still rubbing. what gives? (DragonCTR69)
well i just went to the tirerack's site they list a 195-50-15 to have a dia. of 22.7" and a 20-40-17 has a dia of 23.5" thats more than that quarter of an inch u said before. i have driven my friends car with both 17's and 15's and i can say that his was def. quicker with the 15's but seemed to handle a lil better with the 17's.
01-07-2002, 08:29 AM
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Re: rolling on 17" rims on hatchback, not lowered, still rubbing. what gives? (sohc_boy)
Well the perfect offset for a 17x7" wheel is a 42-45mm offset. With a 40mm it depends on the company who made it.
And yes if you put weight in your car it will lower hence your rubbing.
And yes if you put weight in your car it will lower hence your rubbing.
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