Quick questions on h22 swap
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Quick questions on h22 swap
Like the headline says...do I go with the LSD tranny or the stock? Also does this come with everything I need other than the motor mounts? http://www.hmotorsonline.com/s...30016
I would like to get everything at once so I don't have to wait weeks on end for parts.
I would like to get everything at once so I don't have to wait weeks on end for parts.
12-27-2004, 11:51 PM
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92-95 EG and Del Sol with 94-2000 H22a, H23a Prelude and 96-2000 F22 Accord
Transmission: All 92-up Prelude 5-speed Transmissions and 92-up Accord 5 speed Transmissions. Transmissions with ATTS will require major wiring modifications
Mounts: Hasport mount kit EGH1
ECU: Use the ECU that came with the engine with proper modifications to wiring. For 96 and up Engines either back date electronics and use appropriate OBD 1 ECU or use adapter harness and make proper wiring modifications.
Electrical differences: CX and VX need to convert to 4 wire o2 sensor. Non Vtec models need to be wired for Vtec solenoid and Vtec Pressure. Add EGR soilenoid and EGR valve except for VX. All models modify stock harness to fit, add air intake bypass wiring, and add knock sensor. Hasport offers a harness part # EGWH22
Axles: Use 90-up Accord Intermediate shaft with 90-93 Integra Axles. To use Prelude Intermediate shaft a shorter left hand axle with a female inner joint must be used. To construct the proper left hand axle use 94 GSR left hand axle inner and outter joints on a 86-89 integra axle shaft. Hasport Part#: EGHAXCMP
Shift Linkage: These Transmissions use cables instead of linkage. The Shifter Mechanism and cables fron these vehicles may be used, 90-up Accord 5 spd or 92-up Prelude 5 spd cables and linkage. This will require some cutting and drilling.
Upper Radiator Hose: 90 Integra LS, Trim to fit
Lower Raditor Hose: 94 Del Sol Vtec
Throttle Cable: 98 Prelude
Clutch Hydraulics: Stock
Air Conditioning: Not without some custom Fabrication
Special Instructions: The mounting bracket on the right hand frame rail will need to be removed or it will interfere with the shifter assembly. A thin fan or pusher fan will have to be used with the radiator. Radiator Should be upgraded to a Del Sol Vtec Radiator for increased cooling.
Special Considerations: Suspension and Brake upgrades is a good idea.
96-2000 Civics and 96-97 Del Sol with 88-91 B16a, 92-93 B17a, and 90-93 Integra B18a
Transmission: Thses engines come with japanese or american market cable clutch transmission including S1, J1,A1, Y1,YS1. To use them you will need a conversion harness. Hasport has one Part number M96-CC. Or you could use a Y21, Y80, S80, S4C Hydraulic Clutch Transmissions.
Mounts: For Civic, a combination of stock 99 Si and Integra or Del Sol Vtec Mounts and brackets can be used if a hydraulic B series tranny is used. For Del Sol the Del Sol Vtec Mounts and brackets can be used and you will need to change the bracket under the timing belt and on the rear of the engine for ones of the appropriate year. When using B series engines with cable clutch transmissions you will needt to change the bracket under the timing belt and on the rear of the engines of the appropriate year and use the Hasport cable conversion M96-CC.
ECU: By far the easiest ecu to use in most situations is the p30 from the 96-97 Del sol Vtec. only a few modesl of the 99-00 civics need the 99-00 Si ECU. For more info see Elctrical Differences below. Chipped P28 can be used if a OBDII to OBDI harness is used. May not be smog legal in CA.
Electrical Differences: Wiring Differences can be significant; here are a couple of guidelines. the electrical modifcations depend entirely on engine wiring harness, it is generally best to use the stock harness and modify it to fit. If the ECU you choose does not use the same plugs as the stock ECU, an adapter harness can cut down on alot of potential problems.
Axles: 90-93 integra axles, 94-up integra axles, 94-97 Del Sol Vtec axles, or 99-00 Civic Si Axles. Note the intermediate shaft seal in the left side of transmission is different for 90-93 Integra Axles. Depending on Axle transmission Combo, It may have to be changed. Hasport Part#: EGBAXCMP
Shift Linkage: 99-00 Si Shift Linkage for Civics; 94-97 Del Sol Vtec linkage for Del Sol
Upper radiator hose: For B16a and B17a use 94-97 Del Sol Vtec. B18a use 94 Integra LS
Lower Radiator Hose: Use 94-97 Delsol Vtec
Throttle cable: B16a and B17a use 92 GSR. B18a use 90 Integra LS
Clutch Hydraulics: Stock
Air Conditioning: 96-97 Del Sol Vtec A/C bracket
Special Instructions: Using Non OBD ECU is not a good idea. Using OBDI ECU requires an adapter harness or involved modifications to the harness.
Special Considerations: Best bang for the buck. but not going to be smog legal in CA.
96-2000 Civics and 96-97 Del Sol 94-2000 H22a, H23a Prelude and 96-2000 F22 Accord
Transmission: All 92-up Prelude 5-speed Transmissions and 92-up Accord 5 speed Transmissions. Transmissions with ATTS will require major wiring modifications
Mounts: Hasport mount kit EGH1
ECU: Use ECU that came with the engine with proper modifications to wiring. for 92-95 engines either up date electronics and use appropriate OBDII ECU or use adapter harness and make proper wiring modifications.
Electrical differences: Wiring Differences can be significant; here are a couple of guidslines. The electrical modifications depend entirely on engine wiring harness, it is generally best to use the stock harness and modify it to fit. If the ECU you choose does not use the same plugs as the stock ECU, an Adapter harness with help cut back time on alot of potential problems.
Axles: Use 90-up Accord Intermediate shaft with 90-93 Integra Axles. To use Prelude Intermediate shaft a shorter left hand axle with a female inner joint must be used. To construct the proper left hand axle use 94 GSR left hand axle inner and outter joints on a 86-89 integra axle shaft. Hasport Part#: EGHAXCMP
Shift Linkage: These Transmissions use cables instead of linkage. The Shifter Mechanism and cables fron these vehicles may be used, 90-up Accord 5 spd or 92-up Prelude 5 spd cables and linkage. This will require some cutting and drilling.
Upper Radiator Hose: 90 Integra LS, Trim to fit
Lower Raditor Hose: 94 Del Sol Vtec
Throttle Cable: 98 Prelude
Clutch Hydraulics: Stock
Air Conditioning: Not without some custom Fabrication
Special Instructions: A thin fan or pusher fan will have to be used with the radiator. Radiator Should be upgraded to a Del Sol Vtec Radiator or 99-00 Si for increased cooling.
Special Considerations: Suspension and Brake upgrades is a good idea.
Transmission: All 92-up Prelude 5-speed Transmissions and 92-up Accord 5 speed Transmissions. Transmissions with ATTS will require major wiring modifications
Mounts: Hasport mount kit EGH1
ECU: Use the ECU that came with the engine with proper modifications to wiring. For 96 and up Engines either back date electronics and use appropriate OBD 1 ECU or use adapter harness and make proper wiring modifications.
Electrical differences: CX and VX need to convert to 4 wire o2 sensor. Non Vtec models need to be wired for Vtec solenoid and Vtec Pressure. Add EGR soilenoid and EGR valve except for VX. All models modify stock harness to fit, add air intake bypass wiring, and add knock sensor. Hasport offers a harness part # EGWH22
Axles: Use 90-up Accord Intermediate shaft with 90-93 Integra Axles. To use Prelude Intermediate shaft a shorter left hand axle with a female inner joint must be used. To construct the proper left hand axle use 94 GSR left hand axle inner and outter joints on a 86-89 integra axle shaft. Hasport Part#: EGHAXCMP
Shift Linkage: These Transmissions use cables instead of linkage. The Shifter Mechanism and cables fron these vehicles may be used, 90-up Accord 5 spd or 92-up Prelude 5 spd cables and linkage. This will require some cutting and drilling.
Upper Radiator Hose: 90 Integra LS, Trim to fit
Lower Raditor Hose: 94 Del Sol Vtec
Throttle Cable: 98 Prelude
Clutch Hydraulics: Stock
Air Conditioning: Not without some custom Fabrication
Special Instructions: The mounting bracket on the right hand frame rail will need to be removed or it will interfere with the shifter assembly. A thin fan or pusher fan will have to be used with the radiator. Radiator Should be upgraded to a Del Sol Vtec Radiator for increased cooling.
Special Considerations: Suspension and Brake upgrades is a good idea.
96-2000 Civics and 96-97 Del Sol with 88-91 B16a, 92-93 B17a, and 90-93 Integra B18a
Transmission: Thses engines come with japanese or american market cable clutch transmission including S1, J1,A1, Y1,YS1. To use them you will need a conversion harness. Hasport has one Part number M96-CC. Or you could use a Y21, Y80, S80, S4C Hydraulic Clutch Transmissions.
Mounts: For Civic, a combination of stock 99 Si and Integra or Del Sol Vtec Mounts and brackets can be used if a hydraulic B series tranny is used. For Del Sol the Del Sol Vtec Mounts and brackets can be used and you will need to change the bracket under the timing belt and on the rear of the engine for ones of the appropriate year. When using B series engines with cable clutch transmissions you will needt to change the bracket under the timing belt and on the rear of the engines of the appropriate year and use the Hasport cable conversion M96-CC.
ECU: By far the easiest ecu to use in most situations is the p30 from the 96-97 Del sol Vtec. only a few modesl of the 99-00 civics need the 99-00 Si ECU. For more info see Elctrical Differences below. Chipped P28 can be used if a OBDII to OBDI harness is used. May not be smog legal in CA.
Electrical Differences: Wiring Differences can be significant; here are a couple of guidelines. the electrical modifcations depend entirely on engine wiring harness, it is generally best to use the stock harness and modify it to fit. If the ECU you choose does not use the same plugs as the stock ECU, an adapter harness can cut down on alot of potential problems.
Axles: 90-93 integra axles, 94-up integra axles, 94-97 Del Sol Vtec axles, or 99-00 Civic Si Axles. Note the intermediate shaft seal in the left side of transmission is different for 90-93 Integra Axles. Depending on Axle transmission Combo, It may have to be changed. Hasport Part#: EGBAXCMP
Shift Linkage: 99-00 Si Shift Linkage for Civics; 94-97 Del Sol Vtec linkage for Del Sol
Upper radiator hose: For B16a and B17a use 94-97 Del Sol Vtec. B18a use 94 Integra LS
Lower Radiator Hose: Use 94-97 Delsol Vtec
Throttle cable: B16a and B17a use 92 GSR. B18a use 90 Integra LS
Clutch Hydraulics: Stock
Air Conditioning: 96-97 Del Sol Vtec A/C bracket
Special Instructions: Using Non OBD ECU is not a good idea. Using OBDI ECU requires an adapter harness or involved modifications to the harness.
Special Considerations: Best bang for the buck. but not going to be smog legal in CA.
96-2000 Civics and 96-97 Del Sol 94-2000 H22a, H23a Prelude and 96-2000 F22 Accord
Transmission: All 92-up Prelude 5-speed Transmissions and 92-up Accord 5 speed Transmissions. Transmissions with ATTS will require major wiring modifications
Mounts: Hasport mount kit EGH1
ECU: Use ECU that came with the engine with proper modifications to wiring. for 92-95 engines either up date electronics and use appropriate OBDII ECU or use adapter harness and make proper wiring modifications.
Electrical differences: Wiring Differences can be significant; here are a couple of guidslines. The electrical modifications depend entirely on engine wiring harness, it is generally best to use the stock harness and modify it to fit. If the ECU you choose does not use the same plugs as the stock ECU, an Adapter harness with help cut back time on alot of potential problems.
Axles: Use 90-up Accord Intermediate shaft with 90-93 Integra Axles. To use Prelude Intermediate shaft a shorter left hand axle with a female inner joint must be used. To construct the proper left hand axle use 94 GSR left hand axle inner and outter joints on a 86-89 integra axle shaft. Hasport Part#: EGHAXCMP
Shift Linkage: These Transmissions use cables instead of linkage. The Shifter Mechanism and cables fron these vehicles may be used, 90-up Accord 5 spd or 92-up Prelude 5 spd cables and linkage. This will require some cutting and drilling.
Upper Radiator Hose: 90 Integra LS, Trim to fit
Lower Raditor Hose: 94 Del Sol Vtec
Throttle Cable: 98 Prelude
Clutch Hydraulics: Stock
Air Conditioning: Not without some custom Fabrication
Special Instructions: A thin fan or pusher fan will have to be used with the radiator. Radiator Should be upgraded to a Del Sol Vtec Radiator or 99-00 Si for increased cooling.
Special Considerations: Suspension and Brake upgrades is a good idea.
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