ukspice69

I just got new Piston Rings and installed them , Then I look at the manual I did every thing correct by spacing them in correct angles, but then I realized that there are marks on the Rings look at attachment , Not sure it I put them correct, The rings had color Green and Red tab on each end of the rings, (TOP RING), the other had BLACK and White (second ring ) The parts are from MAHLE part number 41618 the manual SUCKS , DO I HAVE TO TAKE THEM OUT, WHIHC WAY DO THEY GO. Does it Matter, ?

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pityocamptes

If you put them in wrong they won't seat and your compression will be shitty, and they could break. Take a couple of hours to pull them and check, beats having to redo your work in the future with possible additional damage present...

JDM_teh_WIN!!

Why don't you look at your rings and see if they look the the ones in the manual. The top ring doesnt matter if it has a bevel or not if it does install it the way its shown but the bottom ring needs to have the ridge on the bottom.

pityocamptes

Did you follow the MAHLE installation instructions? If so I would not worry about it. OEM and aftermarket may have some differences...

ukspice69

Okay so there are ridges on the ring it self , So which way do I install them ? Bevel Down on the second Ring. any body have pictures, I have bad ADD, The good things is every thing is still broken down , no head on the engine , oil pan it still off.

ukspice69

MAHLE installation instructions? SUCK

JDM_teh_WIN!!

There should be marks with a dot or in your case color. That should be the top. The bottom ring is a scraper ring and NEEDS to be installed in the proper orientation. Makes me think this motor isn't going to last very long.

ukspice69

Thanks. I hope the engine lasts I got 275K miles on it , So the second ring bevel Down ,well wenesday I take out the pistons again and take a look.

ukspice69

PS, The rod bearing after maket they dont use the color system will they be okay, Do i need to lube them when installing and where

pityocamptes

If you have ADD I would ABSOLUTELY keep a list with you and write down piston number one, two, three, etc. and check off what you did for each piston - ease of mind.

ukspice69

Why is there NO DIY guide about Damm piston rings on honda tech

pityocamptes

Main rod bearing or wrist pin?

ukspice69

Main rod bearing

pityocamptes

Dude, I hope for the love of Christ you have been wearing latex gloves and using engine lube on the bearing components. Fingerprints on bearing babbitt can cause etching (from acids in sweat). Engine assembly lube should go on all bearings. After you assembe the engine, install and fill, turn over without the plugs in the cylinders to make sure that the oil is picked up and moving around the block into the vital passages. After that you can start up and break cam in if required on the Honda, or whatever procedures the manual calls for.

ukspice69

thanks pityocamptes

JDM_teh_WIN!!

LOL Oh man. I suggest learning how to build an engine first.

pityocamptes

You made sure that the crank mains and rod bearing oil holes lined up correctly and the locking tangs are correct? Just checking...

pityocamptes

OP, have you built an engine before? How about this: write up what you have done so far, and post pics as you move through the steps and someone can chime in to see if you are doing it correctly. Or... you might ask someone who has done it before to assist you. Nothing wrong with learning. Just do it right or it becomes a big waste of time, energy and money. I'm sure everyone will help... if you ask for it or show your progression...

ukspice69

Yeap, the guy at the machine shop told me oil is okay and vasoline will work to

ukspice69

Well I take picture on Wednesday and remove the rings, AND TAKE A good look at them and figure it out, the old rings have no groves in them , i am assuming for end and wear on the sleave it self

pityocamptes

NO, NO, NO - oil will not cut it, nor will vasoline (when it cools it will clog up filters, etc). You need assembly lube - designed for initial startup and oil starved components. Oil will spin out fairly quickly and if oil from the pump has not reached the bearing material it will heat up and spin or score the babbitt material...

ukspice69

thanks place lube on which parts , inside bearing to rod and out side too

ukspice69

Any others input on the rings

ukspice69

any picture out there on the rings position . ?