Oil change seem there was no oil in the filter
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Oil change seem there was no oil in the filter
Just bought a 98 civic ex went to change the oil but when I took off the filter there doesn't seem to be oil in it. Does that mean the oil pump went out?? Idk and idk how to trouble shoot this and noticed that the check engine light has been unplugged. Please help I need some advise
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Re: Oil change seem there was no oil in the filter
It could have just been a cheap filter with no anit-drainback valve and after setting for awhile the oil drained back out of the filter, does it start and run? I'd hook an oil pressure gauge to it and crank it over a few times just to see but if the pump was bad its probably already done its damage...
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Re: Oil change seem there was no oil in the filter
The filter was a Honda brand oil filter. When I put the new filter one and I turned the car on to pressurize the system then loosened the filter and oil started coming out. So the Honda brand filter don't have a anti-drain back valve??
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Re: Oil change seem there was no oil in the filter
No they do I believe.... Cuz I've pulled a few filters off motors sitting for a while and oil spills everywhere. What you can do is go to the drivers shock tower and there will be a plug with all yellow wires in one end and nothing out the other but there is a cap on it. Take out the cap. This will disable the injectors. Then crank he over to pressurize the system. Then are if oil is in the filter
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Re: Oil change seem there was no oil in the filter
All filters (designed for use in a Vic) have an anti-drainback valve, but...
Like 'they' said above, some filters use "cheap ***" parts - neoprene anti-drainback valve - cardboard end cap - plastic over-pressure valve - etc.
Personally, I run Purolator PureONE filters - silicone anti-drainback valve - metal end cap - metal over-pressure valve...
Having said that, sometimes, when I pull my filter it's full of oil -- sometimes it isn't. It (sort of) depends on how long it's been sitting, and/or how dirty the oil is.
Anyway, I wouldn't worry about it too much. I've been driving Vics for over 10 years, and having an empty oil filter occasionally just goes with the turf. LoL!
Like 'they' said above, some filters use "cheap ***" parts - neoprene anti-drainback valve - cardboard end cap - plastic over-pressure valve - etc.
Personally, I run Purolator PureONE filters - silicone anti-drainback valve - metal end cap - metal over-pressure valve...
Having said that, sometimes, when I pull my filter it's full of oil -- sometimes it isn't. It (sort of) depends on how long it's been sitting, and/or how dirty the oil is.
Anyway, I wouldn't worry about it too much. I've been driving Vics for over 10 years, and having an empty oil filter occasionally just goes with the turf. LoL!
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Re: Oil change seem there was no oil in the filter
I just changed the oil on my civic today and found the same thing with a HONDA OEM filter. Usually oil gushes out of the filter when I change it, but this time there was nothing, and the filter was empty.
Car was only sitting 12 hours. Using normal 5w30. B16 engine. ~3000mi on this filter.
I wonder if there is an issue with Honda OEM filters??!! I saved the suspect filter just in case..
Car was only sitting 12 hours. Using normal 5w30. B16 engine. ~3000mi on this filter.
I wonder if there is an issue with Honda OEM filters??!! I saved the suspect filter just in case..
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Re: Oil change seem there was no oil in the filter
same thing happened to me last time i changed my honda filter, replaced with another honda filter but notice my oil psi gauge on just about every start up takes a second or 2 of idling to register any pressure when it use to go right up.
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Re: Oil change seem there was no oil in the filter
Speaking of oil filters, here's a funny one for you...
I changed my oil the other day, and couldn't get my trusty Purolator PureONE to break loose. I tried everything -- carbon fiber socket - thin wall metal socket - thin band wrench - wide band wrench, blah, blah, blah.
After 2 hours of cussing, I wasn't getting anywhere -- the sides of the filter were crushed -- there's no room on a B16A2 to pierce the filter with a screwdriver -- no room to use a hammer and chisel. Basically, I was ****ed!
At 2:00 AM I decided to go to bed and try it again when the sun came up...
I wasn't asleep for 5 minutes when the 'fix' came to me. LoL! I wanted to jump out of bed and give it a try, but I was too pissed off, beat up, and tired.
What I did was take a cast aluminum 80mm filter socket -- drilled 2 holes in it -- drilled a couple of pilot holes in the filter top, and used 1 1/2-inch long sheet metal screws to attach the socket to the filter. Heh! No more slip n' slide...
Anyway, they say a picture is worth 1000 words. You might want to store this away in the back of your mind, in case you ever run across this problem:
** BTW, as you can see, it had oil inside this time...
I changed my oil the other day, and couldn't get my trusty Purolator PureONE to break loose. I tried everything -- carbon fiber socket - thin wall metal socket - thin band wrench - wide band wrench, blah, blah, blah.
After 2 hours of cussing, I wasn't getting anywhere -- the sides of the filter were crushed -- there's no room on a B16A2 to pierce the filter with a screwdriver -- no room to use a hammer and chisel. Basically, I was ****ed!
At 2:00 AM I decided to go to bed and try it again when the sun came up...
I wasn't asleep for 5 minutes when the 'fix' came to me. LoL! I wanted to jump out of bed and give it a try, but I was too pissed off, beat up, and tired.
What I did was take a cast aluminum 80mm filter socket -- drilled 2 holes in it -- drilled a couple of pilot holes in the filter top, and used 1 1/2-inch long sheet metal screws to attach the socket to the filter. Heh! No more slip n' slide...
Anyway, they say a picture is worth 1000 words. You might want to store this away in the back of your mind, in case you ever run across this problem:
** BTW, as you can see, it had oil inside this time...
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