stdefhatch

ok so i got my fresh motor in today with new clutch, bled the clutch and it still feels way toooo soft like theres nothing there. so i start the car up and try to put it in gear, and it wont go into any gear just grinds. does this sound like a throwout bearing issue to you guys? i just need to figure this out so i can get it on the dyno at 3pm tomorrow.

qat727

I'd start with checking the slave cylinder to make sure it's working properly. Also make sure you bled it right. If you've got the slave off, take that rubber boot off the trans and try to operate the clutch fork by hand. It's possible you don't have the clutch fork on right.

The fact it's grinding indicates your clutch isn't engaging. The throwout bearing would be making a noise if it was bad, but it should still engage. I'd look at the fork or the hydraulics first.

stdefhatch

yeah il do that in the morning when i get home from work. and yes we bled the clutch for a while actualy, and it started to get a little stiffness to it, but still wont engage all the way.

1992cxcivicEG

to me it sounds like one of the cilinders isnt working, master/slave

stdefhatch

i gues ill find out tomorrow. i just dont wana pull hte trans off

94hatchling

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you might not have to. just check the simple stuff first.

look to see if the slave cylinder is actuating the fork like said before. if its working as it should, then you will have to end up pulling the transmission. No problem is so, takes about an hour, off and then back on the car.

good luck!

mikeycivic

ha try letting the clutch out slightly and see if it will go in gear, if it does than you need to adjust the pedal. The same exact thing happened to me with my 6 puck and I couldnt figure it out for the life of me even took the tranny out twice. Ended up just needing to adjust the rod connecting to the pedal.

stdefhatch

im gona take off the cylinder today on the trans, and see if i can move the fork back and forth enough to get it into gear, and then go from there. thanks for all the suggestions so far though,

mikeycivic

b4 you do that do the pedal trick I suggested

stdefhatch

so you had the same problem, where the peddle would only stiffen a little, but it wouldnt be enough to go into gear?

mikeycivic

my problem was when the pedal was pushed to the floor it would not go in gear but when I let the pedal out about 1/2 inch it shifted REAL NICE

blackKready

its not bled properly. i bet money on it. you need a rubber hose from the bleeder nipple into a clear canister full of fluid. keep hose submerged and master cyl. full. crack bleeder with hose on and submerged and leave it cracked this whole time. start pumping clutch and watch for bubbles comming out of hose. keep pumping it over and over till no more bubbles come out. than tighten bleeder. now pump it 20 more times or so with it closed , and with hose still on and submerged , crack bleeder again , pump it a bunch more , make sure no more bubbles , tighten bleeder for last time and your done.

Dool_Ohver_Hed_Cam

could be a broken pressure plate too. just check the least exspensive things first then move on from there.

stdefhatch

well so far i adjusted the clutch pedal, and that made a difference, but i still havent pulled the car outa the garage but it does go in gear with car running now. ill try the hose/bottle thing tomorrow. thanks again. keep em comin

mikeycivic

lol i knew that was the problem

stdefhatch

well ill see what happens when i get the car outa the garage next week when i get home.

blackKready

dude you didnt adjust the arm from the peddle to the master cylinder did you? oh my.......thats gonna have to go back , just do what i told you.

mikeycivic

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what are you talking about??? He already bled the clutch and it didn't work, he needed to adjust the rod ( which he did) and guess what it WORKS now!!

blackKready

cant you fukin read? he said he adjusted the peddle without bleeding it properly.

mikeycivic

you obviously cant read you jackass

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just because he didn't use your method doesn't mean it wasn't done right

blackKready

actually jackass , yes it does , cause this is the only you that it can be done properly , so how do you like me now. im just trying to help the guy , do what you like i could care less.

Dool_Ohver_Hed_Cam

you may want to check to make sure you don't have any leaks in the hydrolic system. if you can pump the clutch while the car is on and get it into gear, you probably have a leak somewhere and will need to replace the master and slave.
will it go into gear when the car is off? are you certain that the new clutch was installed properly?

stdefhatch

yeah it will go into gear smoothly when the car isnt running. and i havent spotted any leaks anywhere yet. i just got home from vacation. and started the car to let it idle again, and it goes into gear now that i adjusted the rod.

mikeycivic