SiBlueCB7

Ok guys please help me out i have a 99 civic with a b16a, jumped to obd1..ok well its turbo and i was gettin it tuned and was gonna switch out dizzys from one of my other cars..well i drove it to my tuners, took the dizzy out without unhooking plugs..and relaized left the dizzy at,my house, put the dizzy back in my car..got home took the dizzy out and unhooked plugs..put new dizzy in..and nothin, sounds like its gettin no compression at all..but its gettin fuel and fire, put the old dizzy in and everything..any ideas

grumblemarc

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"put the old dizzy back on and everything.." Everything is what? And everything is fine? Your new distributor is crap?

SiBlueCB7

Put new dizzy, new wires, plugs..and put old dizz back on and same thing..it ran fine with the old one, until i unhooked the plugs on diz did it do this

grumblemarc

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Sure you hooked it back up correctly. If the old one ran fine why did you swap it out? Are you getting any CELs now?

SiBlueCB7

Yea both dizzys run in my other car..but neither will run my turbo car? Its like its not gettin any compression what so ever

SiBlueCB7

Nothin happened until i unhooked the plugs..and its gettin both fuel and fire?

EFPhilly

So you are getting spark and fuel. That is the only two things your motor needs to start.

Did you check grounds and fuses just in case....this is crazy. Im subscribing

SiBlueCB7

Yea fuel and spark..craziest thing I've seen in all my years of hondas..ran fine until i unhooked the plugs from dizzy..now sounds like no comp,

EFPhilly

And you are sure you did not mix the plugs up. Check that and then change the plugs. When I was untuned I fouled sets of plugs like I changed my undies. Check the wiring as compared to and stock B series motor:

http://hondaswap.com/attachments/452...4-100_5291.jpg

I have done this once. And the dizzy is not 180 degrees off (because you would still be getting spark)

Put motor to TDC of #1 and check your dizzy to be pointing to #1!

SiBlueCB7

Well im running a obd1 dizzy..2 plugs...no way i could mix up, its got a good tune on it now, just was gonna do a fine tune, and changed plugs this morning..and same thing..i tried the 180 out, but both dizzys will only go in one way, its not a huge spark..kinda a faint spark..man I've spent a ton of money in this car..please keep me goin with ideas buddy

grumblemarc

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Hope it isn't the ECU. Got a spare you can test it on?

SiBlueCB7

Im running my tuners computer, and i put mine in it to check, and nothing again

SiBlueCB7

No cel lights either..comes on then goes off like normal

EFPhilly

Ecu^^
Are you on S300 or what?

Or if the dizzy has been tampered with like mine was the little 2 prong plug was on backwards on mine. That is why you would set the motor to TDC and check the position...to make sure it matches.

If a engine has spark and fuel...it will start...or at least attempt to. Does it start to go then die or nothing at all? Because nothing would mean ignition related if you are getting fuel.

If its not broke dont fix it right lol just giving you ****. Im going to Film studies class so I will have hours to ponder this question to try to come up with ideas. Hope you find your problem before I get out of class!



maybe this will help:
http://www.samarins.com/diagnose/index.html

SiBlueCB7

Im just running a p28 on chrome, and no it does nothing but crank..with no compression doesn't even try to spark

EFPhilly

WTF I though you said it had fuel and spark. Then you say it doesnt even try to spark? I think you meant start.

Compression test it because you only need those two things to run it. Why dont you talk to the tuner ey? He prolly knows Hondas well and knows the car better than us.

What is the timing set at on the computer vs on your engine?

SiBlueCB7

Baha meant start..and tuner said he's never seen anythin like this happen

EFPhilly

Did you disconnect the battery when putting the dizzy on by chance?

I did not get much thinking done in my class...had to take notes, and now have to write a paper...Im no help

SiBlueCB7

No i didn't disconnect the battery why?

EFPhilly

Did you try checking the dizzy with a multimeter. Checking resistance in the spark plugs. Something has to be throwing off the ignition timing! You said you run a jumper harness. Those harnesses are known for failing sometimes when ppl put them on the floor and whatnot.

The timing is off on something injectors of ignition....

fuel pressure?
How did you check fuel injectors working?
fuses, relays?

This confirms my thought it must be timing:
https://honda-tech.com/forums/acura-integra-6/97-integra-crank-no-start-issue-please-help-2790469/#post42748828

Oh I completely forgot about this...what color is the spark. You could be producing a weak spark and not igniting the fuel.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/%2A%2A%2A-basics-no-start-diagnosis-101-%2A%2A%2A-1992733/

SiBlueCB7

Bright blue spark..i think for some dumb *** odd reason it jumped time..it has no compression

EFPhilly

no compression when you test it? If it jumped a tooth it may have done something to a valve?

pityocamptes

No compression? I've cooked engines in the past that had busted rings and blown holes in the pistons and they still ran, though not the best. Not sure what you mean by "compression"...