jayjay

First off,

I started with a 94 civic ex. The previous owner had blown a headgasket in the rain and drove the car so far that the timing belt cover melted to the motor. He took the head off and had it resurfaced.

I purchased the car and swapped the z6 block with a b7 block.

So now, I have it all in a running. What I need to know is where is the service jumper so that I can set the timing.

Anyone have a picture of this service jumper?


Thanks,
JayJay

therealjaydubb

I did the same swap. The easiest thing to do is pull the crank pulley off. line up the groove on the timing belt gear on the crank with the arrow on the block. This will put you at TDC. The Z6 head has UP stamped on the cam gear with a line about 90 degrees of both sides of it. Make sure it is pointed up and the line on the left side of the gear is slighty lower than the valve cover mating surface. To verify the timing is correct place a rod in the number one spark plug hole with the timing belt on and HAND spin the motor being careful not to allow the rod to get jammed by the piston. Make sure the rod goes up and down and watch the cam gear to make sure that the UP indicator on the gear and the arrow and the groove on the crank gear all match up.

jayjay

well,
You may have misunderstood what my question was...

I am done with setting the crank/timing gear timing. I need to set the timing on the dizzy. I nee to know where the service jumper is so once I set the timing the ecu you not change it.

understand??

therealjaydubb

O haha .Im sorry its below the dash behind glove box.

therealjaydubb

2 pin blue connector

NOv8IV

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I have searched and searched and haven't found how to do this...I've got my cam/crank timing set and I need to do the same thing on my mini-me...I know where the connector is etc. But any info on setting ignition timing would be VERY helpful..I was actually wondering why it was not changing anything when we would try to advance/retard distributor. Anyone??




Modified by NOv8IV at 10:01 AM 5/28/2007

jayjay

I know that the ecu will self adjust the timing if you do not jump the service connector. You cannot just set the timing with out it. Once you turn the car off and restart. That setting will be changed.

For myself... it's just finding out where the plug actually is.

NOv8IV

Ok, so just basically jump the connector, and set the timing how I want it...and then turn the ignition off, remove jumper and it will retain that timing that I set?

jayjay

I do beleave that is how it works.

That's normally how I did it on my rex. The civic I have now is an entirely different animal.

Can someone else please chime in????

94c1v1cex

if you're still looking for the ecu you have to pull the kick panel on the passenger side where you put your feet and it's right there...

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NOv8IV

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Hmmmm. Yes, that is already understood. I was wanting to confirm how to set ignition timing.

therealjaydubb

To tell u the truth when i did my mini me i didnt do any of the and my car runs great. And its with the same year car and engine setup.

VerbalVenom

Yes, that's correct. You'll be getting the base timing when you jump the 2 wire connector. Instructions from Alldata:

Testing and Inspection

1- Start the engine and allow it to warm up (the radiator fan comes on).


2- Pull out the service check connector located behind the right kick panel. Connect the BLK and BRN terminals with a jumper wire or SCS service connector.



3- Connect a timing light to the No.1 ignition wire and point it toward the pointer on the timing belt cover.





4- Adjust ignition timing, if necessary, to the following specifications: Ignition Timing: D15Z1 engine: M/T: 16°±2°BTDC (RED) at 600 ±50 rpm (USA) or

700 ±50 rpm (Canada)

D15B8 engine:
M/T: 12°±2°BTDC (RED) at 670 ±50 rpm (USA)

D15B71D16Z6 engine:
M/T: 16°±2°BTDC (RED) at 670 ±50 rpm (USA) or
750 ±50 rpm (Canada)

A/T 16°±2°BTDC (RED) at 700 ±50 rpm (USA) or
750 ±50 rpm (Canada)

NOTE:
Change lever (M/T) or A/T gear position switch (A/T) in neutral position.
All electrical systems should be turned OFF.



5- If it is necessary to adjust the ignition timing, loosen the distributor mounting bolts, and turn the distributor ignition housing counterclockwise to advance the timing, or clockwise to retard the timing.
6- Tighten the mounting bolts, and recheck the timing.
7- Remove the jumper wire from the service check connector.

jayjay

Thats how I did it. Thank you for verifying...

civicslayrx

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VerbalVenom &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, that's correct. You'll be getting the base timing when you jump the 2 wire connector. Instructions from Alldata:

Testing and Inspection

1- Start the engine and allow it to warm up (the radiator fan comes on).


2- Pull out the service check connector located behind the right kick panel. Connect the BLK and BRN terminals with a jumper wire or SCS service connector.



3- Connect a timing light to the No.1 ignition wire and point it toward the pointer on the timing belt cover.





4- Adjust ignition timing, if necessary, to the following specifications: Ignition Timing: D15Z1 engine: M/T: 16°±2°BTDC (RED) at 600 ±50 rpm (USA) or

700 ±50 rpm (Canada)

D15B8 engine:
M/T: 12°±2°BTDC (RED) at 670 ±50 rpm (USA)

D15B71D16Z6 engine:
M/T: 16°±2°BTDC (RED) at 670 ±50 rpm (USA) or
750 ±50 rpm (Canada)

A/T 16°±2°BTDC (RED) at 700 ±50 rpm (USA) or
750 ±50 rpm (Canada)

NOTE:
Change lever (M/T) or A/T gear position switch (A/T) in neutral position.
All electrical systems should be turned OFF.



5- If it is necessary to adjust the ignition timing, loosen the distributor mounting bolts, and turn the distributor ignition housing counterclockwise to advance the timing, or clockwise to retard the timing.
6- Tighten the mounting bolts, and recheck the timing.
7- Remove the jumper wire from the service check connector.
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Bets first post ever, thats faq material there.