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Old 12-12-2005, 10:58 PM
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I m in need of a brake jop soon and i ordered brembo rotors and hawk pads, I am thinging about changing out the master cylinder also but wanted to know if i can upgrade to a bigger MS or just run the stock one. I have a 00 hatch cx. going with a bigger MS i will get better brake pressure and feel? or is there no need to upgrade the stock MS. I also wanted to do this because the brake pedal seems to travel about 1/2 the stroke before it starts to slow down.
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It won't so much as give you better pedal feel as shorten the travel of the pedal. You can upgrade just the master cylinder. I will suggest you do both though. It will help tremendously. Good choice on the rotors and pads though.

Edit: I have the same pads and rotors with braided stainless steel lines and a 1" ITR mc/bb and I absolutely LOVE my brakes. I can stop so quickly and drive deep into turns on the track.
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larger master cylinders are for larger caliper pistons. your pads may be so worn, and stock brakes arent that great...put the new stuff on (break in properly), get some stainless lines, and get back to me. I dont think you'll have any complaints. a 1" MC is gonna make the brakes like an on/off switch.
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can i upgrade to a 1" MS even though the itr has ABS(???) and my car doesnt. wouldnt that make a diff?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RC211V &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">can i upgrade to a 1" MS even though the itr has ABS(???) and my car doesnt. wouldnt that make a diff?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Didn't matter on mine.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redline96LX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">larger master cylinders are for larger caliper pistons. your pads may be so worn, and stock brakes arent that great...put the new stuff on (break in properly), get some stainless lines, and get back to me. I dont think you'll have any complaints. a 1" MC is gonna make the brakes like an on/off switch.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is true. However, after some time my brakes are starting to fade a little and the pedal travel has increased enough for me to enjoy the larger master cylinder.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC4life 96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Didn't matter on mine.

This is true. However, after some time my brakes are starting to fade a little and the pedal travel has increased enough for me to enjoy the larger master cylinder. </TD></TR></TABLE>

ok if the fluid is doing its job, by creating pressure behind the piston, why would the pedal travel further with the pads wearing down? just the fluid level on the MC should drop not the pedal. whats going on here?
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Once the pads and rotors start to wear, there is a larger space between the two. So the pedal will have to be depressed further to make up for that space. At least that is what I think happend. All I know is that my brakes are killer and wouldn't trade them for ANYTHING else. Except maybe some 4 piston calipers.
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if the brakes are like an on/off switch that's no good for winter time :/

that's why i'm wondering if i should go to 1" or just use a 15/16th mc
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC4life 96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Once the pads and rotors start to wear, there is a larger space between the two. So the pedal will have to be depressed further to make up for that space. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Nope

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RC211V &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

ok if the fluid is doing its job, by creating pressure behind the piston, why would the pedal travel further with the pads wearing down? just the fluid level on the MC should drop not the pedal. whats going on here?</TD></TR></TABLE>

correct. if you pedal is dropping further and further, you most likely have a leaking MC (or a leak somewhere in your brake system).
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