Lug Nuts For Steelies
11-20-2005, 09:13 AM
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Re: Lug Nuts For Steelies (schlit)
Who cares? Lugnuts are like 20 bucks.
Oh yeah, and I don't see any reason the lugs would be different as long as the lug pattern is the same, but who knows? They might be.
Oh yeah, and I don't see any reason the lugs would be different as long as the lug pattern is the same, but who knows? They might be.
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11-20-2005, 01:27 PM
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Re: Lug Nuts For Steelies (aspec101)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aspec101 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lugs work fine between alloys and steelies I use the same ones with my fat fives and my winter steelies.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wrong.. Steelies require the ACORN shaped lug nuts. Aftermarket wheels like Rotas, SpOoNs Y0! require non-acorn shaped lugs. It's hard to explain without pictures. All i know is you should use stock-like lugs with your stock steelies and use after-market lugs (different shaped base) with your aftermarket wheels. It affects how the wheels are seated (sp?) with each kind..
Edit:
I did a search and found this thread:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=159931
Wrong.. Steelies require the ACORN shaped lug nuts. Aftermarket wheels like Rotas, SpOoNs Y0! require non-acorn shaped lugs. It's hard to explain without pictures. All i know is you should use stock-like lugs with your stock steelies and use after-market lugs (different shaped base) with your aftermarket wheels. It affects how the wheels are seated (sp?) with each kind..
Edit:
I did a search and found this thread:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=159931
11-20-2005, 01:44 PM
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Re: Lug Nuts For Steelies (schlit)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schlit »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My lug mating surface is ok since I went from a stock alloy wheel to a stock steelie...both acorn style....but I'd definitely need new lugs if I had an AFTERMARKET allow rim.
If you have any questions about the mating surface shape, a very good discription with pictures are in the tire and wheel forum heading post.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1188922</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ahh.. I didnt know you had STOCK allow wheels. The mating surface should be the same for stock allows and steelies, so you're right.. should be fine with stock lugs.
If you have any questions about the mating surface shape, a very good discription with pictures are in the tire and wheel forum heading post.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1188922</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ahh.. I didnt know you had STOCK allow wheels. The mating surface should be the same for stock allows and steelies, so you're right.. should be fine with stock lugs.
11-20-2005, 02:00 PM
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Re: Lug Nuts For Steelies (schlit)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schlit »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, the wheel will stay on, I just cant mount the wheel covers.....that is my original question </TD></TR></TABLE>
the hubcap should pop on after you bolt the wheel up and tighten the lugs (assuming they are stock). it is held on by clips, not the lugs, so it goes on last.
</TD></TR></TABLE>the hubcap should pop on after you bolt the wheel up and tighten the lugs (assuming they are stock). it is held on by clips, not the lugs, so it goes on last.
11-20-2005, 02:05 PM
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Re: Lug Nuts For Steelies (Hatchy-Ownzjo0)
actually factory honda lugs are a ball seat lug nut. they are rounded where they meet the wheel not tapered. all you need is the plastic retaining rins for the lugs. they just fit into the groove on the lug nut.
11-20-2005, 02:08 PM
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Re: Lug Nuts For Steelies (typeoneeg6)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by typeoneeg6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually factory honda lugs are a ball seat lug nut. they are rounded where they meet the wheel not tapered. all you need is the plastic retaining rins for the lugs. they just fit into the groove on the lug nut.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hmm.. you may be right. damn it I work with too many kinds of cars.. can never keep them strait, bah!!
Hmm.. you may be right. damn it I work with too many kinds of cars.. can never keep them strait, bah!!
11-20-2005, 02:13 PM
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Re: Lug Nuts For Steelies (Hatchy-Ownzjo0)
yeah dude i never knew how big a difference it could be till i started workin at discount tire. now if a vehicle comes in with the wrong lugs they have to buy the correct lugs or we cant put the wheels back on.
11-20-2005, 03:27 PM
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Re: Lug Nuts For Steelies (schlit)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schlit »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For those of you with hubcaps....do your lugs have a lip on them?</TD></TR></TABLE>
When I put plain old steelies on my EG I didnt have to replace the lugs..
When I put plain old steelies on my EG I didnt have to replace the lugs..
11-20-2005, 03:28 PM
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Re: Lug Nuts For Steelies (ShadyBAB)
But now that I remember, America's tire co put a set of acorn shaped lug nuts on... you may need acorn shaped to fit inside the lip
11-22-2005, 05:10 PM
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Re: Lug Nuts For Steelies (schlit)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schlit »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For anyone else who is researching, NO, you cannot use the stock lugs from a stock alloy rim if you would like to use stock wheel covers. The seat shape of the lugs are the same, though to hold the covers on, there is an extra lip.</TD></TR></TABLE>
which is nothing more than a plastic ring you can slip on and off. you can buy the hubcap retaining rings at the dealer.
which is nothing more than a plastic ring you can slip on and off. you can buy the hubcap retaining rings at the dealer.
11-23-2005, 05:40 AM
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Re: Lug Nuts For Steelies (schlit)
there are 3 types of lugnuts that come on hondas. short ball seat, open ended short ball seat and long ball seat with groove for plastic ring.
you need the ones with the groove for the plastic ring. this allows the lugnuts to be torqued properly, and not pinching the wheel cover against the wheel.
post in the classifieds. i am sure someone will part with theirs cheap. i have 2 sets, but i need them for the cars for my winter wheels. sorry.
you need the ones with the groove for the plastic ring. this allows the lugnuts to be torqued properly, and not pinching the wheel cover against the wheel.
post in the classifieds. i am sure someone will part with theirs cheap. i have 2 sets, but i need them for the cars for my winter wheels. sorry.
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There is a difference but for the most part the one on the left is what you would want to use instead of the one on the right.
I had a set of the ones on the right for my LS/GSR mesh wheels and when I decided to sell and switch to steels. The ones on the right will not fit due to thickness difference between actual wheels and steels. The steels are thin and the lug will leave a space on the actual bolt.
And the most of the later generation of Civic hubcaps are required to go on before the lug nuts are placed on due to two lug nuts acting as both a holding point for the hubcab as well as for the wheel just as the other two do.
I had a set of the ones on the right for my LS/GSR mesh wheels and when I decided to sell and switch to steels. The ones on the right will not fit due to thickness difference between actual wheels and steels. The steels are thin and the lug will leave a space on the actual bolt.
And the most of the later generation of Civic hubcaps are required to go on before the lug nuts are placed on due to two lug nuts acting as both a holding point for the hubcab as well as for the wheel just as the other two do.
02-26-2006, 08:04 PM
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Re: Lug Nuts For Steelies (Rodney)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rodney »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there are 3 types of lugnuts that come on hondas. short ball seat, open ended short ball seat and long ball seat with groove for plastic ring. </TD></TR></TABLE>
There are four...long ball seat with no groove for late model Accords, etc. with alloys. I use them on my HX's. Sweet. My buddy at the stealership had a whole drawer full of take-offs in his box.
4k posts ...pffft
</TD></TR></TABLE>There are four...long ball seat with no groove for late model Accords, etc. with alloys. I use them on my HX's. Sweet. My buddy at the stealership had a whole drawer full of take-offs in his box.
4k posts ...pffft