k20 swap
07-05-2007, 05:29 PM
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k20 swap
im doing a k20 swap in my 99 ek and all i have is the engine and tranny. i know i need mounts and an ecu but i was told im going to need alot more. if u know of anything else i will need it would be greatly appreciated. also if anyone knows were to get a good ecu like hondata or chrome let me know. thanks
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Like the title says, I'm tired of seeing all the "what do I need for this" etc. posts and I really just hate saying "Search, you'll find answers." While the answers ARE out there they aren't 100% easy to find. I found them on the site, but I've also looked for a while.
This is what you want, THE K20/24 SWAP PARTS LIST. Items are also loosely categorized and are meant to be the cheapest possible way to complete the swap. Please keep in mind this may not be 100% accurate to what you want to accomplish but it's damn close! Here it is!
ENGINE/TRANNY (All gaskets/seals are considered "known to be needed" items)
----------------
K-series engine(K24/K20)
K-series tranny(Type-R/RSX-S/RSX Base)
K-series engine harness(RSX-S 02-04)
K-series charging harness(RSX-S 02-04)
K-series Alternator(For Engine of Choice)
K-series Starter(For Engine of Choice)
K-series ECU(RSX PRB 02-04) Plus Hondata K-Pro(Or JDM K-series ECU)
CRV Passenger side engine mount(needed for non-CRV K24 swaps)
Header(R-crew/DC/SSR)
Clutch/Flywheel(RSX-S)
RSX Type-S Oxygen Sensor(Primary)
RSX Type-S Knock Sensor(Only if not using RSX-S engine, Or repin stock Knock sensor)
RSX Type-S Clutch Slave Cylinder
RSX Type-S Halfshaft
RSX BASE Axles(For EG only, Swap inner joints)
RSX Type-S Throttle Body(Or Accord throttle body, depending on engine/intake)
RSX-S Intake Manifold(Or RBC/TSX/Accord)
Karcepts Throttle Body Adapter(only if using RBC)
Engine Mounts(Hybrid/Avid/Hasport)
Harness Conversion(Hybrid/Hasport)
Clutch Line(Hybrid Racing)
RADIATOR/COOLING (This is for using stock radiator)
-----------
Hasport Billet Hose Adapter(For Stock B/D series Fan switch/coolant temp sensor)
Perma-Cool PRM-19120 11"x10" Fan
TOP Rad Hose - RSX Type-S Top Hose(for EK/EG)
BOTTOM Rad Hose - 99-00 Civic Si Top Hose(for EK/EG)
SHIFTER PARTS
-----------
Karcepts Shifter mounting kit
RSX Type-S Shifter Box
RSX-S 02-04 Shifter Cables
Shift Parts to Connect Cables (OEM, easy)
EXHAUST PARTS (Must be custom welded, Can substitute for 2.5")
-----------
Kteller 3" Stainless Piping
3" in/out Muffler
Catalytic Converter if you choose to use one.
FUEL SYSTEM PARTS (Using stock fuel rail, minimum costs)
------------
(http://www.summitracing.com)
EAR-991945ERL - Converts OEM fuel filter to -6 AN fitting
EAR-165056ERL - Converts OEM fuel rail to -6 AN fitting
RUS-610020 x 4 - Straight -6 AN Hose couplers
SUM-220166N x 3 - Straight cut -6 AN to -6 An hose, Ports on FPR.
RUS-610160 - 90 Degree -6 AN Coupler from fuel filter to FPR.
RUS-632070 - 10 feet -6 AN Hose
AEI-13109 - Aeromotive Fuel Pressure Regulator.
Walbro 190/255lph Fuel Pump(It's cheap, and worth it - http://www.hybrid-performance.com)
IF REMOVING POWER STEERING(with no A/C)
-------------
EP3 Idler pulley/bracket
Manual Steering rack, Or Loop P/S rack
K24 = 52" Serpentine Belt(works perfectly on mine)
K20 = 50.5" Serpentine Belt
IF KEEPING POWER STEERING (No A/C - With a current P/S rack)
-------------
K20 PS Pump
Jackson Racing Pulley - P/N: 052-154 (This will clear an EG hood with K20 swap, no hole...only cutting.)
52" Serpentine Belt(only for K20 - K24 = Unknown?)
02-04 RSX High pressure hose
3/8" I.D. hose
Oil cooler from Perma-Cool Industries P/N:1007 (for P/S fluid return line)
Fluid NEEDS:
-------
POWER STEERING FLUID - 2 Bottles
DOT3 Brake fluid - 2 Bottles
Coolant 50/50 Mix - 2 Bottles(3 to be safe/cover leaking or spillage)
MTF - 3 Bottles
OIL - 6 Quarts
RANDOM HOSES (Not totaly acurate for ALL swap configurations, keep in mind O.D. and I.D. measurements)
-------
10' 3/16" I.D. Hose (possibly not all swaps)
10' 1/4" I.D. Hose
10' 3/8" I.D. Hose
5' 3/4" O.D. Hose
5' 1" O.D. Hose (possibly not all swaps)
MISC BOLTS/Parts (This is mainly used if you buy Engine/Trans apart from one another)
-------
90034-P10-A01 X 6 clutch bolts
90011-PNA-B00 x 8 flywheel bolts
22103-PNA-003 pilot bearing
95701-12060-08 x4 tranny bolts
95701-12085-08 x 2 starter bolts
90027-PND-A00 starter bolt long
90025-PNA-000 bolt
95701-08055-08 x 2
90008-PNA-000 x 2 alternator bolts
90008-PPA-000 bolt
21351-PNB-000 cover for tranny to connect k24a with k20a2 type s tranny(only K24)
95701-06012-08 x 3 bolts
MAIN SITES TO USE:
https://www.hondapartsdeals.com/
http://www.thehondapartsstore.com/
http://www.acuraparts247.com/
http://www.acuraoemparts.com/delray/jsp/home.jsp
http://www.summitracing.com
http://www.jhpusa.com
http://www.hasport.com
http://www.hybrid-racing.com/
http://www.karcepts.com/
http://www.rockauto.com/ (cheap hard to find OEM parts)
http://www.rcrewracing.com
http://www.sixsigmaracing.com/home.htm
http://www.motors.ebay.com/ (you can save a lot if you look for deals)
This should be absoloutley EVERYTHING you need to complete a K20/24 swap, Minor variances will be there as this list is meant for an EG only because It's what I own :silly: However it should be 95% of what you need for EK/DC2 aswell.
That should be it, Correct me if you see something wrong. Hopefully this stops all the "Zomg what do I needz" posts...
This is what you want, THE K20/24 SWAP PARTS LIST. Items are also loosely categorized and are meant to be the cheapest possible way to complete the swap. Please keep in mind this may not be 100% accurate to what you want to accomplish but it's damn close! Here it is!
ENGINE/TRANNY (All gaskets/seals are considered "known to be needed" items)
----------------
K-series engine(K24/K20)
K-series tranny(Type-R/RSX-S/RSX Base)
K-series engine harness(RSX-S 02-04)
K-series charging harness(RSX-S 02-04)
K-series Alternator(For Engine of Choice)
K-series Starter(For Engine of Choice)
K-series ECU(RSX PRB 02-04) Plus Hondata K-Pro(Or JDM K-series ECU)
CRV Passenger side engine mount(needed for non-CRV K24 swaps)
Header(R-crew/DC/SSR)
Clutch/Flywheel(RSX-S)
RSX Type-S Oxygen Sensor(Primary)
RSX Type-S Knock Sensor(Only if not using RSX-S engine, Or repin stock Knock sensor)
RSX Type-S Clutch Slave Cylinder
RSX Type-S Halfshaft
RSX BASE Axles(For EG only, Swap inner joints)
RSX Type-S Throttle Body(Or Accord throttle body, depending on engine/intake)
RSX-S Intake Manifold(Or RBC/TSX/Accord)
Karcepts Throttle Body Adapter(only if using RBC)
Engine Mounts(Hybrid/Avid/Hasport)
Harness Conversion(Hybrid/Hasport)
Clutch Line(Hybrid Racing)
RADIATOR/COOLING (This is for using stock radiator)
-----------
Hasport Billet Hose Adapter(For Stock B/D series Fan switch/coolant temp sensor)
Perma-Cool PRM-19120 11"x10" Fan
TOP Rad Hose - RSX Type-S Top Hose(for EK/EG)
BOTTOM Rad Hose - 99-00 Civic Si Top Hose(for EK/EG)
SHIFTER PARTS
-----------
Karcepts Shifter mounting kit
RSX Type-S Shifter Box
RSX-S 02-04 Shifter Cables
Shift Parts to Connect Cables (OEM, easy)
EXHAUST PARTS (Must be custom welded, Can substitute for 2.5")
-----------
Kteller 3" Stainless Piping
3" in/out Muffler
Catalytic Converter if you choose to use one.
FUEL SYSTEM PARTS (Using stock fuel rail, minimum costs)
------------
(http://www.summitracing.com)
EAR-991945ERL - Converts OEM fuel filter to -6 AN fitting
EAR-165056ERL - Converts OEM fuel rail to -6 AN fitting
RUS-610020 x 4 - Straight -6 AN Hose couplers
SUM-220166N x 3 - Straight cut -6 AN to -6 An hose, Ports on FPR.
RUS-610160 - 90 Degree -6 AN Coupler from fuel filter to FPR.
RUS-632070 - 10 feet -6 AN Hose
AEI-13109 - Aeromotive Fuel Pressure Regulator.
Walbro 190/255lph Fuel Pump(It's cheap, and worth it - http://www.hybrid-performance.com)
IF REMOVING POWER STEERING(with no A/C)
-------------
EP3 Idler pulley/bracket
Manual Steering rack, Or Loop P/S rack
K24 = 52" Serpentine Belt(works perfectly on mine)
K20 = 50.5" Serpentine Belt
IF KEEPING POWER STEERING (No A/C - With a current P/S rack)
-------------
K20 PS Pump
Jackson Racing Pulley - P/N: 052-154 (This will clear an EG hood with K20 swap, no hole...only cutting.)
52" Serpentine Belt(only for K20 - K24 = Unknown?)
02-04 RSX High pressure hose
3/8" I.D. hose
Oil cooler from Perma-Cool Industries P/N:1007 (for P/S fluid return line)
Fluid NEEDS:
-------
POWER STEERING FLUID - 2 Bottles
DOT3 Brake fluid - 2 Bottles
Coolant 50/50 Mix - 2 Bottles(3 to be safe/cover leaking or spillage)
MTF - 3 Bottles
OIL - 6 Quarts
RANDOM HOSES (Not totaly acurate for ALL swap configurations, keep in mind O.D. and I.D. measurements)
-------
10' 3/16" I.D. Hose (possibly not all swaps)
10' 1/4" I.D. Hose
10' 3/8" I.D. Hose
5' 3/4" O.D. Hose
5' 1" O.D. Hose (possibly not all swaps)
MISC BOLTS/Parts (This is mainly used if you buy Engine/Trans apart from one another)
-------
90034-P10-A01 X 6 clutch bolts
90011-PNA-B00 x 8 flywheel bolts
22103-PNA-003 pilot bearing
95701-12060-08 x4 tranny bolts
95701-12085-08 x 2 starter bolts
90027-PND-A00 starter bolt long
90025-PNA-000 bolt
95701-08055-08 x 2
90008-PNA-000 x 2 alternator bolts
90008-PPA-000 bolt
21351-PNB-000 cover for tranny to connect k24a with k20a2 type s tranny(only K24)
95701-06012-08 x 3 bolts
MAIN SITES TO USE:
https://www.hondapartsdeals.com/
http://www.thehondapartsstore.com/
http://www.acuraparts247.com/
http://www.acuraoemparts.com/delray/jsp/home.jsp
http://www.summitracing.com
http://www.jhpusa.com
http://www.hasport.com
http://www.hybrid-racing.com/
http://www.karcepts.com/
http://www.rockauto.com/ (cheap hard to find OEM parts)
http://www.rcrewracing.com
http://www.sixsigmaracing.com/home.htm
http://www.motors.ebay.com/ (you can save a lot if you look for deals)
This should be absoloutley EVERYTHING you need to complete a K20/24 swap, Minor variances will be there as this list is meant for an EG only because It's what I own :silly: However it should be 95% of what you need for EK/DC2 aswell.
That should be it, Correct me if you see something wrong. Hopefully this stops all the "Zomg what do I needz" posts...
07-05-2007, 07:35 PM
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Re: k20 swap (EM1_00Si)
Depending on how resourceful you are, the k20 could cost youy anywhere from $6000-12000 all said and done.
It's VERY rare for someone to get it done for less than $7000-$8000
It's VERY rare for someone to get it done for less than $7000-$8000
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07-05-2007, 07:49 PM
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Re: k20 swap (black7hatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by black7hatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought i remember reading something about needing to use the gas tank that goes with the k20 not the stock one in your car, but dont quote me on that. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i believe thats to make the car smog legal....if your not a CA or other states that aren't carb you'll be fine.
i believe thats to make the car smog legal....if your not a CA or other states that aren't carb you'll be fine.
07-18-2007, 09:06 AM
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Re: k20 swap (JKov240)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JKov240 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^Honestly...it really isn't.
200hp for at least 8K
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Amen, a $1500 d-series build would net 250whp.
W00t,
k vs world thread.
even done for $7000 or so, i can't justify it unless I needed to impress Californians.
200hp for at least 8K
</TD></TR></TABLE>Amen, a $1500 d-series build would net 250whp.
W00t,
k vs world thread.
even done for $7000 or so, i can't justify it unless I needed to impress Californians.
07-18-2007, 10:12 AM
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Re: k20 swap (ek forever guy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Amen, a $1500 d-series build would net 250whp.
W00t,
k vs world thread.
even done for $7000 or so, i can't justify it unless I needed to impress Californians.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's a great motor and is the future of swapped Hondas...but RIGHT NOW it's not worth it in my opinion. If you have money to toss around then by all means, go for it...but a boosted B or D could be had for a fraction of that.
EDIT: Or in ek forever guy's case, an H2B
W00t,
k vs world thread.
even done for $7000 or so, i can't justify it unless I needed to impress Californians.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's a great motor and is the future of swapped Hondas...but RIGHT NOW it's not worth it in my opinion. If you have money to toss around then by all means, go for it...but a boosted B or D could be had for a fraction of that.
EDIT: Or in ek forever guy's case, an H2B
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