GoHardEH2

I jus got a 93 Del Slo....as a trade for my teal ej1 and its slow as expletive and I hate it....I love tha car tho...Its like a budget s2k....anyways...

Im tired of being non-vtec but wanna make decent power, I dont have b16,gsr,h22 money so im down to ls or jdmd15b

I was thinking to go on boost in time with either but really im jus looking for some feedback

1995Civic

Your Sol is equipped with the D16z6 motor, which happens to love boost! I have the same motor boosted, and its awesome.

What are your ultimate goals/plans? DD? Track use?

GoHardEH2

haha NA I have tha S......d15b7 no vtec for me....and u say its like boost...im always hearing sohc blow easy under boost....

ya its my daily..so it needs to b reliable...i want some input on how that d15b runs...cuz it has tha same hp as a obd0 ls right...

sauceja

I have a eg hatch and when I had a basically stock B16 the d15b vtec was not much of a match.
At 3600 feet above sea level the d15b ran a high 16 time so if you are at sea level you may be able to squeeze a low 16 high 15 depending on your skills.

You should be able to pick up a B16 swap for a cheap amount or the B18B in a eg hatch was running around a 15.5 with some decent tuning.

I would say round up a b18 motor and get a B16 tranny. that would be pretty reliable and fun to drive. Boost it later after the funds get back up.

http://www.homemadeturbo.com and just piece one together for the cheapness.

Given your budget I would just rag on your current motor and save for a better swap.

1995Civic

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ya its my daily..so it needs to b reliable...i want some input on how that d15b runs...cuz it has tha same hp as a obd0 ls right...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well then that sucks!

You heard wrong if you think Single Cams just blow under boost...its probably because most of the idiots around here dont know how to properly do it. Like I said, Ive done three single cam setups on three different cars, and they are all running perfect! The parts you use is critical, and the tuning that needs to be done is a must.

A D15B and LS are not compareable. The D15B is OBD1 as well...an LS is not a high-reving motor and has no vtec. It will lay out more torque in the entire RPM band as opposed to the D15B. Dont get all caught up with this just because its a "JDM motor"

Get rid of the b7, drop in a complete D16z6 swap for $400, and piece together a turbo setup. You get the right parts + a good tune, and you will have a good reliable daily.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sauceja &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a eg hatch and when I had a basically stock B16 the d15b vtec was not much of a match.
At 3600 feet above sea level the d15b ran a high 16 time so if you are at sea level you may be able to squeeze a low 16 high 15 depending on your skills.

You should be able to pick up a B16 swap for a cheap amount or the B18B in a eg hatch was running around a 15.5 with some decent tuning.

I would say round up a b18 motor and get a B16 tranny. that would be pretty reliable and fun to drive. Boost it later after the funds get back up.

http://www.homemadeturbo.com and just piece one together for the cheapness.


Given your budget I would just rag on your current motor and save for a better swap.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is also a good plan. I love the GSR or LS motor w/ a B16 tranny. Awesome power I just think youd be better off boosting the z6 and saving yourself a lot of money while having more fun

GoHardEH2

Alright so Ima stay sohc now the issue is z6 vs d15b

Relic1

mini-me head swap (cheapest but lowest power result)
or
boost + chip/tune. (cheaper than swap but requires a good tune to get reliability)
or
B18B swap + B16 trans

all good for daily driver status on a tight budget.


**edit** ^^^ apparently I type too slowly.

1995Civic

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I say the z6 would be better because it has excellent oiling, and aftermarket parts are so much easier to get over the D15B.

The D15B revs a little higher, but doesnt necessarily mean your getting power
It also has a little beefier cam as well...but not nearly enough for you to even tell.

The z6 bottom end is strong as ****....minus the rods But that is with all single cams. The rods are like toothpicks.

kuja396

For a daily just get a b18b with a b18b transmission! Great torque, plus at 80 mph your doing like 3.5k rpms. You could boost later and have 250 very reliable WHP.

1995Civic

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IMO, if you want to go the B18 route...go with a B16 tranny. It has shorter gears...at the track, that matters big time. No sense in going 100mph in second gear

uneek360

yea but the OP says he's not BIG into Racing....

I would just do a mini-me swap

vlc92189

boost it..

GoHardEH2

z6 sounds good for a quick lil daily for now i think i will end up doing a ls on boost
so is it worth it to go and get a z6 swap or jus longblock? Is the ex tranny that much of a factor to this motor?

DelSolDon

check out the SOHC turbo parts i have left in the the links in my sig below.

zackm70

get the ex tranny. The dx one has really spread out gear ratio's and slows down accleration

Felliph3

I suggest you get a D15B,its got a stage 3 VTEC system and its great for daily driving.You should save for a swap or build a turbo so if you swap i say b18b since its got great torque for the streets.Its an easy swap too.Check out this thread: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1900388

sauceja

Actually I will be trading a T25 turbo for a couple D15B heads today or tomorrow so IM me if interested in that. I don't need them I am just trading a guy that wants my turbo and only has parts for trade.

The blocks are all pretty much the same all you have to do is pull out a oil plug and slap a vtec head on it. I have a bunch of mini-me links on my home computer I will post up when I get there for you.

Manga_Spawn

Another option is building the D15B7. If you put a D16a6 cam and a D16y8 cam gear along with a si or ex trans and a z6 or y8 intake manifold I have seen numbers around 130 hp which is about the same as either SOHC vtec motor will give you and it will be ALOT cheaper.

Otherwise just get a full SOHC swap and do that for now. There is so many parts out there for these engines and they are relativly cheap. Check out d-series.org for more SOHC info then you will ever need.

GoHardEH2

Ight I think I got it.....D15b swap put together a turbo kit...DD it then save up for to go LS......then in time on boost...Thanks everyone ill put all those links to good use...

TypeRobert

for a daily that wont be raced i recommend B20Z lots or torque, with any transmission from one of the vtec dohc unless you like the lonnggg gears of the ls tranny.

t0p_sh0tta

I wouldn't bother with a swap at all.

-Swapping in an EX/SI tranny (If you don't already have one), will make a much bigger difference than a mini-me setup.

-Don't bother throwing in a Z6 if you're planning to boost it, save the $$$ and use what you already have.

BLUCIVICSl2

i think he should do a stock b20 with an LS trans thats probably the best setup for a daily driver

sauceja

Think about the big picture though. You put in a d motor than prepare a turbo kit for it.

Then you switch to a B motor of any kind. Well you just wasted alot of money because now you need a different manifold and the t3 turbo that was just right for the d motor is now to small to put on a B.

I would rock what you have and buy a motor now. Start building it how you want it and start scavenging turbo parts here and there. by next spring you have a built and ready to boost motor/turbo and you only paid for **** once.

Work smarter not harder.

Archidictus

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No. Just no. On so many different levels, no.

chuniepatuni

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No. Just no. On so many different levels, no.</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha... just get a d15b and spend a lil on bolt on parts.. good on gas and its a great daily

thats what im gonna do to my car wen i get 700 bucks =D