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Old 11-12-2001, 12:52 AM
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Default How do i tell if my B16 tranny has got LSD?

Hi,

how do i know whether my tranny has LSD? When i rotate the rotors clock-wise at the left side...the right side will turn anti clock-wise in a different direction...and there is no LSD print on the gearbox.... only a sticker that states Y21....something.

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Default Re: How do i tell if my B16 tranny has got LSD? (Spoon_Civic)

How about jacking the car up...with both front wheels up. Hold one wheel...and have someone push on the throttle. If u can keep the one wheel ur holding from spinning...while the other front wheel spins....then it does not have lsd. Anyone think this will work?
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sound good to me
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How about jacking the car up...with both front wheels up. Hold one wheel...and have someone push on the throttle. If u can keep the one wheel ur holding from spinning...while the other front wheel spins....then it does not have lsd. Anyone think this will work?
are you retarded? why don't you drive over 2 of your friends, dump the clutch, and see if they both get equally as hurt. if one gets more hurt than the other, you don't have lsd............ seriously, when you burn out, do you leave 2 marks? or even easier, pop one axle out. if you can the see the other axle with no obstruction (little metal bar) to the other axle, you have lsd. if that little bar is in the way blocking your view of the other axle, no lsd. you can get killed or really friggin hurt running the car and trying to hold the wheel.
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Default Re: How do i tell if my B16 tranny has got LSD? (rodney)

good looking out.. just dump it and see if you leave two tires marks or one i forget its just like poszi (sp?)
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Default Re: How do i tell if my B16 tranny has got LSD? (Spoon_Civic)

Hi,

how do i know whether my tranny has LSD? When i rotate the rotors clock-wise at the left side...the right side will turn anti clock-wise in a different direction...and there is no LSD print on the gearbox.... only a sticker that states Y21....something.

Any ideas?

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You have already answered your own question. If the wheels spin in the same direction you have LSD, if they spin in opposite directions, you don't.

Basically, if you move the wheel like the car is going forward, and the wheel on the other side also rotates where the car will go forward, you have LSD.
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Default Re: How do i tell if my B16 tranny has got LSD? (white eg)

i didnt have lsd on my b16 tranny and i could still leave two tire marks so sorry that doesnt work. like they said above check for the bar where the axles go into the tranny.
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Default Re: How do i tell if my B16 tranny has got LSD? (Big James)

You have already answered your own question. If the wheels spin in the same direction you have LSD, if they spin in opposite directions, you don't.

Basically, if you move the wheel like the car is going forward, and the wheel on the other side also rotates where the car will go forward, you have LSD.
sorry bro, but you are wrong there. the wheels move opposite directions when off the ground with a stock honda lsd. if you were to get a clutch type lsd (KAAZ, ATZ etc) both the wheels would rotate the same direction in the air. i know this to be fact.
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Default Re: How do i tell if my B16 tranny has got LSD? (rodney)

Ok now i'm confuse...which is correct?

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Default Re: How do i tell if my B16 tranny has got LSD? (MiGs)

Oh ok...then mine doesn't have one
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Default Re: How do i tell if my B16 tranny has got LSD? (MiGs)

EASIEST way is to turn the wheels whichever way with the front end jacked up. Both wheels should turn the same way IF it has LSD, factory or not.

If they turn both the opposite direction, than it does not have LSD.
so, my all of my friend BRAND new itr's don't have lsd then. all the cars that i bought new itr trannies from the dealer, and installed them myself must not have lsd. wow, honda really jipped about 60 of my friends. good racket they have going. do i have to take some video to prove this or what?
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Default Re: How do i tell if my B16 tranny has got LSD? (Spoon_Civic)

http://tiiite.b16a.com/JDM-LSD.htm

Simple ain't it?
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Default Re: How do i tell if my B16 tranny has got LSD? (Mista Bone)

yep. very simple. but some like to refer back to 60's and 70's technology, and assume it refers to our FF cars.
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Default Re: How do i tell if my B16 tranny has got LSD? (rodney)

Traction-Lok, Posi-Trac, etc.

I did V8's before and now going back.
Honda not for sale either!
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Default Re: How do i tell if my B16 tranny has got LSD? (Spoon_Civic)

b16a tranny's dont have lsd only the type r gets that privilege unless the tranny came from japan in the cable clutch form
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Default Re: How do i tell if my B16 tranny has got LSD? (MiGs)

Easiest way to test, involves no mess and absolutely NO physical labor! Go find a spot on a hill where you can place one wheel on dry pavement and the other on wet pavement. There is frequently water running down the edge of streets with curbs, so this is quite easy to find.

Roll up the hill a little and stop, one wheel on dry, one on wet. Then try accelerating fairly quickly. Don't do a burnout, just something harder than normal.

If you start to move forward, you have an LSD. If you just sit there with the wheel on the wet pavement spinning, you do NOT have an LSD.




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so, my all of my friend BRAND new itr's don't have lsd then. all the cars that i bought new itr trannies from the dealer, and installed them myself must not have lsd. wow, honda really jipped about 60 of my friends. good racket they have going. do i have to take some video to prove this or what?!
i posted that because you are giving him misleading information. he will jack his front end up, and find out that his wheels move in opposite directions and think he does not have lsd. when in fact, he might. you got me thinking, so i dug out my 97 HELMS itr supplement manual. on page 15-4, it states.....

"when the vehicle rounds a curve, the differential allows the outer wheel to rotate a little faster than the inner wheel. when this takes place, the short and long pinion gears rotate, and walk around the side gears. if for example, THE RIGHT SHAFT IS ROTATED IN A COUNTERCLOCKWISE DIRECTION with the differential carrier held stationary, the force is transmitted through the right side gear, short pinion gears and long pinion gears to the left side gear, CAUSING THE LEFT SHAFT TO ROTATE IN A CLOCKWISE DIRECTION. this allows the outer wheel to turn more times than the inner wheelwhen the vehicle goes around a turn."

on the very next page, 15.5 it continues with a
"Differential Operational Check"
1. set the parking brake.
2. raise the front of the vehicle, and support it with jackstands.
3. with the engine off, shift the transmission into first gear.
4. rotate either front wheel by hand, and check that the other front wheel rotates in the OPPOSITE direction.
5. if the opposite front wheel does not rotate, or if you cannot spin the front wheels at all, the limited slip is faulty and should be replaced.

just in case you don't have the 97 supplement, i also looked in my 98 helms integra service manual. the exact same information is posted on pages 15-21 to 15-23.

now do you know what i am referring to guy? lol, i guess you don't see my kind of humour.
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Default Re: How do i tell if my B16 tranny has got LSD? (rodney)

Just to add further support, I agree with rodney.
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Default Re: How do i tell if my B16 tranny has got LSD? (Bunta)

Rodney is correct.
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Default Re: How do i tell if my B16 tranny has got LSD? (Spoon_Civic)

should be stamped lsd on tranny....also you can look in the drive shaft holes to tell also....i don't have a pic to show ya what it should look like....im me for more info
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Default Re: How do i tell if my B16 tranny has got LSD? (MiGs)

MiGs,
My suggestion to you is this:
Try it.
1. set the parking brake.
2. raise the front of the vehicle, and support it with jackstands.
3. with the engine off, shift the transmission into first gear.
4. rotate either front wheel by hand, and check that the other front wheel rotates in the OPPOSITE direction.
5. if the opposite front wheel does not rotate, or if you cannot spin the front wheels at all, the limited slip is faulty and should be replaced

Then see if yours does that. If they spin the SAME direction then you got a faulty tranny or got screwed into thinking it is LSD equipped. If they DO spin opposite ways, then congrats, you've got a LSD

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Default Re: How do i tell if my B16 tranny has got LSD? (MiGs)

Is your car in gear when you do this? I know that when i jack my 01 ITR up and rotate 1 tire, the other turn in the oposite direction. Same as Jason's (Typer98) 98 ITR.
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Default Re: How do i tell if my B16 tranny has got LSD? (WantingaType-R)

Yup Danno righty O,

Just like mine did a couple of weeks ago when we were changing my tires remember?

Spin it one way and the opposite went Well, OPPOSITE!


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PS yeah it was in 1st gear...


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Default Re: How do i tell if my B16 tranny has got LSD? (Spoon_Civic)

i have a GSR tranny w/LSD... u put the car up, and spin one wheel and the other
one should rotate the same way... then u have LSD... don't think i'm wrong
'cause i learned it at school... i'm in Honda Program in Toronto...


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