hondata? what makes it different than chipped ecu? odb2?
02-15-2008, 11:03 PM
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hondata? what makes it different than chipped ecu? odb2?
so my car is odb2 and i dont want to go to odb1 cuz my engine wasnt swapped and i know a chipped ecu is meant for swapped engines. im not planning on boosting the car, i just want to go all motor. will hondata do the same job that a chipped ecu would do even tho im not going to tune it for a boost application and since my engine isnt swapped?
02-15-2008, 11:22 PM
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Who told you that a chipped ECU is for cars that have had engine swaps? Find that somebody and run them over. Spreading that kind of stupid nonsense......well, it's stupid.
An ECU will control an engine. It doesn't care where the engine came from, what car it's in now, it doesn't care if the engine has been passed around more cars than a $2 hooker.
A chipped ECU is engine management in a box.
Hondata is engine management in a box. Well, box in a box actually.
They all more or less do the same thing. Boost, NA, doesn't matter. They can both be used for all motor applications, and can both be used for boosted engines.
An ECU will control an engine. It doesn't care where the engine came from, what car it's in now, it doesn't care if the engine has been passed around more cars than a $2 hooker.
A chipped ECU is engine management in a box.
Hondata is engine management in a box. Well, box in a box actually.
They all more or less do the same thing. Boost, NA, doesn't matter. They can both be used for all motor applications, and can both be used for boosted engines.
02-16-2008, 04:52 AM
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with honda you have your a/f ratio programmed for your specific car.
a "chip" in most cases is a piece of crap that people buy off of ebay and is in now way programmed for your car.
guess which one would be better.
a "chip" in most cases is a piece of crap that people buy off of ebay and is in now way programmed for your car.
guess which one would be better.
02-16-2008, 09:08 AM
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Re: (instrument)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by instrument »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with honda you have your a/f ratio programmed for your specific car.
a "chip" in most cases is a piece of crap that people buy off of ebay and is in now way programmed for your car.
guess which one would be better.</TD></TR></TABLE>
He's talking about a CHIPPED ECU. As in programmable. Used for running Crome, Uberdata, etc.
a "chip" in most cases is a piece of crap that people buy off of ebay and is in now way programmed for your car.
guess which one would be better.</TD></TR></TABLE>
He's talking about a CHIPPED ECU. As in programmable. Used for running Crome, Uberdata, etc.
02-16-2008, 05:05 PM
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You replied to my post. I hope you're not talking about me.
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02-16-2008, 05:19 PM
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You replied to my post. I hope you're not talking about me.</TD></TR></TABLE>
No sir, to the OP. Did cross my mind you might think it was you after i saw your avatar.
You replied to my post. I hope you're not talking about me.
</TD></TR></TABLE>No sir, to the OP. Did cross my mind you might think it was you after i saw your avatar.
02-16-2008, 05:39 PM
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No sir, to the OP. Did cross my mind you might think it was you after i saw your avatar. </TD></TR></TABLE>
It's all good.
Reminds me I need to change that. Christmas is over.
No sir, to the OP. Did cross my mind you might think it was you after i saw your avatar. </TD></TR></TABLE>
It's all good.
Reminds me I need to change that. Christmas is over.
02-16-2008, 06:14 PM
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Re: (IslandSi)
so i can chip my ecu ...well if i get a p28 and not worry about it if i tune it then? i cant really afford hondata at the moment. but i really want to know if id be wasting my time chipping it cuz i dont want any problems. i already have the odb2-1 harness. so am i good? even if my engine is pretty much odb2, im good as long as i change my ecu to odb1? cuz this is the original motor. cuz if so, i can do this pretty soon. i jst dont want to waste my time.
02-16-2008, 06:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by em1gangsta »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so i can chip my ecu ...well if i get a p28 and not worry about it if i tune it then? i cant really afford hondata at the moment. but i really want to know if id be wasting my time chipping it cuz i dont want any problems. i already have the odb2-1 harness. so am i good? even if my engine is pretty much odb2, im good as long as i change my ecu to odb1? cuz this is the original motor. cuz if so, i can do this pretty soon. i jst dont want to waste my time.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's a little more difficult then just changing over the ECU. A P28 running CROME would be fine for what you are probably looking to get from your car.
It's a little more difficult then just changing over the ECU. A P28 running CROME would be fine for what you are probably looking to get from your car.
02-16-2008, 08:39 PM
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lol well i thot a hondata cost $500. or something close to that. well i can get my car tuned for cheap thats why i wanted to chip my ecu lol.
02-17-2008, 08:49 AM
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A piggyback system is a piece of ****.
Crome is an engine managemnet system that can be owned for free as a basic version. There is a Crome pro for about $150, but you wouldn't need to download either of these programs unless you have engine tuning knowledge and a chip burner.
Make you life easy go here and read http://www.pgmfi.org
Buy a P28 ecu socketed with a ZIF (zero insertion force socket) do not pay more than $160
and either jumb your obd2 harness or get this
http://www.boomslang.us/obd2to1.htm
Then you can have your special someone tune you car (assuming they have a chip burner) using Chrome, Uberdata, Turbo Edit, Ghetto Dyne ect...
Crome is an engine managemnet system that can be owned for free as a basic version. There is a Crome pro for about $150, but you wouldn't need to download either of these programs unless you have engine tuning knowledge and a chip burner.
Make you life easy go here and read http://www.pgmfi.org
Buy a P28 ecu socketed with a ZIF (zero insertion force socket) do not pay more than $160
and either jumb your obd2 harness or get this
http://www.boomslang.us/obd2to1.htm
Then you can have your special someone tune you car (assuming they have a chip burner) using Chrome, Uberdata, Turbo Edit, Ghetto Dyne ect...
02-17-2008, 10:20 AM
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Re: (dynimitejack)
ohh ok, that makes a lot of sense now. so i am going to chip my ecu and run it on chrome. that seems fairly easy. as long as i run my ecu odb2-1, i shouldnt have any problems then? like the knock sensor wont come on?
02-17-2008, 12:03 PM
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Re: (em1gangsta)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by em1gangsta »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ohh ok, that makes a lot of sense now. so i am going to chip my ecu and run it on chrome. that seems fairly easy. as long as i run my ecu odb2-1, i shouldnt have any problems then? like the knock sensor wont come on?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The P28 has no knock sensor, and if you have no electronics knowledge i.e. soldiering don't even try to chip your ecu or you will be kicking your *** when you burn the board. Any knowledgeable shop that tunes Honda motors will know CROME.
The P28 has no knock sensor, and if you have no electronics knowledge i.e. soldiering don't even try to chip your ecu or you will be kicking your *** when you burn the board. Any knowledgeable shop that tunes Honda motors will know CROME.
02-17-2008, 01:04 PM
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Re: (DC5Chris209)
ehh your right. i should prolly wait till i know a lil more about it before i do it. cuz i dont know much of anything about chipping and running chrome and tuning.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by em1gangsta »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ehh your right. i should prolly wait till i know a lil more about it before i do it. cuz i dont know much of anything about chipping and running chrome and tuning. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Just go to the link above and just start reading, that is how most all of us learned. And any tuner will take the time to explain what you will need to get a foot in the right direction.
Just go to the link above and just start reading, that is how most all of us learned. And any tuner will take the time to explain what you will need to get a foot in the right direction.
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